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Old 02-19-2009, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VideoGuy
While I do not work for Colgan, my wife does, and I believe that I heard a little bit about the story above.

First I would like to give my condolences to the entire Colgan family. I have read through this thread and am glad to see the support for each other in this time of loss.

From my conversations with my wife, I have a lot of respect for the flight crews. My thoughts are with the families affected by this tragic accident.
Yeah, I really haven't heard many people that like the guy ... most think he's a giant tool.

Really the only positive thing I've heard is that you actually hear from him. Usually it's about something completely pointless and could have been avoided if he'd done research, but at least you know he exists. Our last chief pilot I wasn't even sure cared about anything ... never heard a peep from him.
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:14 PM
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I can't stand ******** chief pilots. We had one at Mesa for quite some time, and we got rid of him (and the interim who wasn't much better at all, and maybe even worse) and we have a GOOD chief now. AI. He's a super awesome guy - and he's a pilot's pilot. I LOVE that man too - he's like the funniest dude I've ever met. I wish he was doing my recurrent checkride. lol.

Just hang on Captain - you'll see things changing at Colgan. I promise. I'll be around to help out when the time is right, we all will be. No longer will we put up with BS from management. No longer will we accept unsafe aircraft, and no longer will we put the company before our family.

You guys at Colgan are good people - and the good guys always prevail. Marvin will be upstairs helping us out from that end - I know it.
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:20 PM
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Y... Our last chief pilot I wasn't even sure cared about anything ... never heard a peep from him.
I know nothing about your current CP but at every place I'd been at before "not hearing a peep" from the CP was a good thing.
In fact my goal then and still today is to retire without him/her knowing who I am...
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DublinFlyer
I can't stand ******** chief pilots. We had one at Mesa for quite some time, and we got rid of him (and the interim who wasn't much better at all, and maybe even worse) and we have a GOOD chief now. AI. He's a super awesome guy - and he's a pilot's pilot. I LOVE that man too - he's like the funniest dude I've ever met. I wish he was doing my recurrent checkride. lol.

Just hang on Captain - you'll see things changing at Colgan. I promise. I'll be around to help out when the time is right, we all will be. No longer will we put up with BS from management. No longer will we accept unsafe aircraft, and no longer will we put the company before our family.

You guys at Colgan are good people - and the good guys always prevail. Marvin will be upstairs helping us out from that end - I know it.
Thanks Dublin! Yeah, things are changing quick at Colgan, that's for sure. It's a completely different company all together than it was just 2 years ago when I got hired.

From what I have heard Pinnacle Inc. is doing away with all the outstations over the next year to go to pure Hub & Spoke operations. We already closed HPN this month (or end of Jan, can't remember) and they all went to IAD. I don't know what station is gonna be next, but I hope it happens soon. I think outstations are VERY inefficient, but that's just me.

I honestly wished that when our former CP passed away the, now Director of Ops took over the job (which he did interim for about 2 weeks). Oh well.

All we can do now is fight for what we know we deserve! And believe me, fight we will! We have some good people on our MEC
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE
I know nothing about your current CP but at every place I'd been at before "not hearing a peep" from the CP was a good thing.
In fact my goal then and still today is to retire without him/her knowing who I am...
Well that's a very good view point to have, but when you need something to get done/heard, and your CP should be the one to step in, and you hear nothing from him ... it's a little on the ridiculous side.

I share the same viewpoint you do though. I don't EVER like hearing from my CP unless it's him calling to compliment me on a job well done ... HA! (that one made me laugh just typing it).
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Yeah, I really haven't heard many people that like the guy ... most think he's a giant tool.

Really the only positive thing I've heard is that you actually hear from him. Usually it's about something completely pointless and could have been avoided if he'd done research, but at least you know he exists. Our last chief pilot I wasn't even sure cared about anything ... never heard a peep from him.
Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear, I don't know the CP, I heard about a pilot that had a miss trip due to a similar story you posted. I don't know if it is the same pilot or not, but that is actually not relevant. The story I heard, I think the pilot made the correct choice. I was going to log in today to remove that from my post since it really isn't about the thread anyway. I can however relate to the knee jerk reactions that come from those in management, my boss doesn't even know the scope of my work. As long as no one complains, management doesn't involve themselves, but the minute someone does, we are flooded with forms.
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Lets stay on point here folks.
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Old 02-20-2009, 06:35 AM
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One thing strikes me as odd about the coverage this accident has received. When US Airways landed in the Hudson, all the news stories talked about how the Captain landed the plane, handled the emergency, etc. like there wasn't even anybody else in the cockpit with him. When talking about the Colgan crash, the media seems always to reference the crew's actions, even though from the ATC tapes we can surmise it was the Captain at the controls.
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Originally Posted by MacMan
One thing strikes me as odd about the coverage this accident has received. When US Airways landed in the Hudson, all the news stories talked about how the Captain landed the plane, handled the emergency, etc. like there wasn't even anybody else in the cockpit with him. When talking about the Colgan crash, the media seems always to reference the crew's actions, even though from the ATC tapes we can surmise it was the Captain at the controls.
I think you might be reading too much into it, however I know exactly where you are coming from...the problem with the media is even when they do something right, most people find it to hard to believe, so they just shake it off, They (the media) scream ethics all the time but the reality is the MEDIA, even the aviation Media, have all proven 90% of the time they are hiding behind a misguided sense of whats ethical..Its never been about whats right for them, its about what Sells..IF they get somthing right, im the first to tell em great job, because it is such a rare occurance, it sticks out like a sore thumb
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:51 PM
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Lets stay on point here folks.
Good call ... my apologies
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