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Old 01-30-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by APM145
How would you put it?

They sort of do educate folks about the realistic job outlooks.
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Excellent post APM145 I stand corrected looks like ALPA has started. This web-page should get more exposure. I copied & pasted a few bits from the website enjoy. If you can bear ouch.

"Airline pilots, because of FAA regulations, cannot fly more than 100 hours a month or more than a total of 1000 hours per year. Most airline pilots average around 75 hours of flying a month. Pilots spend several hours each day between flights waiting for their aircraft or waiting for flight delays to clear. These duty hours are not paid. A 75-hour flight month may also have about 140 duty hours and approximately 360 hours away from base."

" • The average ALPA legacy captain is 52 years old with 21 years of service and earns about $155,000 annually.
• The average ALPA non-legacy captain is 49 years old with 16 years of service and earns about $144,000 annually.
• The average ALPA regional captain is 40 years old with 10 years of service and earns about $70,000 annually.
• The average ALPA cargo captain is 51 years old with 17 years of service and earns about $200,000 annually."

"• The average ALPA legacy first officer is 45 years old with 12 years of service and a yearly salary of about $105,000.
• The average ALPA non-legacy first officer is 42 years old with 6 years of service and a yearly salary of about $83,000.
• The average ALPA regional first officer is 32 years old with 3 years of service and a yearly salary of about $33,000.
• The average ALPA cargo first officer is 45 years old with 7 years of service and a yearly salary of about $121,000."
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ski Patrol
Excellent post APM145 I stand corrected looks like ALPA has started. This web-page should get more exposure. I copied & pasted a few bits from the website enjoy. If you can bear ouch.

"Airline pilots, because of FAA regulations, cannot fly more than 100 hours a month or more than a total of 1000 hours per year. Most airline pilots average around 75 hours of flying a month. Pilots spend several hours each day between flights waiting for their aircraft or waiting for flight delays to clear. These duty hours are not paid. A 75-hour flight month may also have about 140 duty hours and approximately 360 hours away from base."

" • The average ALPA legacy captain is 52 years old with 21 years of service and earns about $155,000 annually.
• The average ALPA non-legacy captain is 49 years old with 16 years of service and earns about $144,000 annually.
• The average ALPA regional captain is 40 years old with 10 years of service and earns about $70,000 annually.
• The average ALPA cargo captain is 51 years old with 17 years of service and earns about $200,000 annually."

"• The average ALPA legacy first officer is 45 years old with 12 years of service and a yearly salary of about $105,000.
• The average ALPA non-legacy first officer is 42 years old with 6 years of service and a yearly salary of about $83,000.
• The average ALPA regional first officer is 32 years old with 3 years of service and a yearly salary of about $33,000.
• The average ALPA cargo first officer is 45 years old with 7 years of service and a yearly salary of about $121,000."
Man thats more depressing info I almost would rather not knowing....hahaha
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:53 PM
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Man thats more depressing info I almost would rather not knowing....hahaha
I know skyhigh would be so proud sorry. But these #'s need to get some exposure especially for the wannabe's. Supply & Demand.
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I know skyhigh would be so proud sorry. But these #'s need to get some exposure especially for the wannabe's. Supply & Demand.

True.....I wish this would make a 60 minutes special.
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Excellent post APM145 I stand corrected looks like ALPA has started. This web-page should get more exposure. I copied & pasted a few bits from the website enjoy. If you can bear ouch.
No problem. Glad I could help. Ski, ALPA is not the enemy. It really is you an me. Any time you hear a rumor and it starts off with "The Union" its wrong. We all need to get the word out about our profession but also live in the real world and realize that things wont change with posts on the net (this is a great site btw). We need to take action. Nothing earth shattering but liitle bits of volunteering makes a big difference. Call up your rep and see what committees need some help. Its the only way to make things better. The pilots before us, those retiring or sitting on a beach somewhere, risked theri jobs back in the day to improve safety and working conditions for pilots. Some never benefited from the changes but it made all the difference, the fact that they made the effort to help each other.

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Well okay, yeah our "hourly pay rate" does only have us working "part time" but to say that we don't work much is absurd. I make it a point to enlighten friends/family/curious stangers how much Pilots actually work vs how much they are actually compensated in broad general terms.

Good on ALPA for publishing the CTD website, we just need it advertised more in print/web/broadcast for more exposure.
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