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Old 12-18-2009, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
Yep, looks like it's true.

Here's my question. The 16 upgrades......will it be transitions or initials? We're fat on EMB CA's and I know that all those SAN CA's have been blitzing Klen's phone. If SKW plans on keeping their EMB CA’s fully staffed, will they allow EMB CA’s to transition and then back fill them with initial EMB upgrades?

Should be interesting. As for the new hires……who knows where they will come from? It’s completely wrong for the company to put new hires in the RJ class when there are so many EMB FO’s with several years of seniority that want to transition. IMO, all new hires should continue to be placed in the EMB.
I think they really should allow anybody to bid anything they want this time...

EMB CA's would probably fill the RJ class.

Some FO's could then upgrade on the EMB.

Any RJ FO vacancies would go to EMB FO's.

New hires would get whatever was left...probably EMB.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:21 AM
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by colead3
So would us ASA furloughees be able to transfer to the Skywest side?
Looks like furloughed UAL guys get first crack.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I think they really should allow anybody to bid anything they want this time...

EMB CA's would probably fill the RJ class.

Some FO's could then upgrade on the EMB.

Any RJ FO vacancies would go to EMB FO's.

New hires would get whatever was left...probably EMB.
I agree. I stand no chance in transitioning; I just want these slots to be awarded fairly. If they are I'd expect the RJ upgrade classes to be full of the former SAN and SMF EMB CA's. LOL!.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound
Looks like furloughed UAL guys get first crack.
Probably true, I had forgotten about that. I think it's part of the contract.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Probably true, I had forgotten about that. I think it's part of the contract.
I have to look again.. but isnt there something in the ASA contract saying we can switch between companies? I really hope they take care of us furloughees too.. It doesn't seem fair that we're on the street and UAL furloughees get first dibs when ASA is owned by Skywest..
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by colead3
I have to look again.. but isnt there something in the ASA contract saying we can switch between companies? I really hope they take care of us furloughees too.. It doesn't seem fair that we're on the street and UAL furloughees get first dibs when ASA is owned by Skywest..
I'm sure the UA contract would take precedence.

There might be a loophole...if the ASA pilots were treated as SKW, Inc furlough recalls as opposed to new hires they would take priority over UA pilots I think.

But they would have to keep their longevity and seniority to make it look right...I don't see that happening.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:57 AM
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I don't know, talked to a Capt last week who had just flown with an FO with a buddy in the pool. Said his buddy just got an email from Camelle to brush off the brain and get ready for class.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:05 AM
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I don't know, talked to a Capt last week who had just flown with an FO with a buddy in the pool. Said his buddy just got an email from Camelle to brush off the brain and get ready for class.

I guess the majority of us furloughed ASA pilots shouldn't plan on putting in our notice to Applebees anytime soon then!! lol Just kidding..
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Who does, or who should come first ASA or UA furloughees? I've got my opinion, but is there anything in the contracts? Don't we have a pool with guys in it already?
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