Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot

My answer to this.............I've SEEN it happen, and the outcome was NOT what the "offending party" expected. It had nothing to do with drinking, but was the same "scenario". A couple of pilots were walking down the concourse when a captain stopped them, introduced himself, and asked them to wear their uniforms a bit more "professionally". They said they wore their uniforms "differently" and proceeded to be a bit "put offish". The captain then asked them again in a polite way to please wear their uniform a bit more professionally since they represented our airline. One of the pilots rolled his eyes at the captain and said, "whatever". The captain took out a pen, wrote down their names, and told them they didn't have to ever worry about getting a job at our airline, since what he HADN'T told them was that he was one of the guys who did the interviewing and pilot selection. So..............now they've hosed themselves from coming to work for us. Funny thing though, was that they both had applied only weeks earlier and now have just slammed the door in their own face. Sometimes you just have to bite your tongue because you just never know who's watching or who you're talking to. This industry is a very small one and ticking people off or saying the wrong thing at the wrong time can really come back and haunt you.

Originally Posted by Joachim

How do you figure that being on the hiring board of CAL requires/entitles one to police the concourses of airports and enforce the rules of your airline with employees of random subcontractors? To me that sounds confused, arrogant and detrimental.

Originally Posted by Joachim

How do you figure that being on the hiring board of CAL requires/entitles one to police the concourses of airports and enforce the rules of your airline with employees of random subcontractors? To me that sounds confused, arrogant and detrimental.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Kind of depends on how bad their uniforms actually looked.

Originally Posted by labbats

Let's not compare a flight attendant drinking in a bar to a pilot. The public at large wouldn't know that flight attendant from a coat check girl or a greeter at WalMart.

Also, if that flight attendant gets fired what does she care? Does she owe $50,000 in student loans to become a flight attendant? Can she just go apply at the Gap and make the same money? A flight attendant isn't a pilot.

Personally, I'd send them a coffee from the bar. They'd ask why and I'd tell them it's a bad idea to drink in uniform.


That's not to say I agree with the zero tolerance rules. This country is so wrapped up in past precedents that it's silly. Having one beer in a bar isn't a big deal compared to a 16 hour duty day in crap weather. Seeing a boob on TV isn't half as shocking as an episode of CSI. However, reality is what we deal with not utopia and having a beer in public in uniform is a bad idea.

Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot

We have MANY FA's at CAL with Masters and Doctrate degrees........and yes they have humongous student loans. We also have many that are nurses, models, engineers, lawyers, and soap opera stars. We also have quite a few making right at $100,000 a year too. (Certainly not GAP pay). But back to the subject at hand. Your approach of the "coffee" is a good one though, I have to say. But many on here are totally "disregarding" the importance of FA's. Ask the passengers on the flight in DEN that rolled off the runway just how important the FA's were. I'm sure their answers might surprise you. While the pilots were busy behind a locked door, the FA's were busy SAVING LIVES. How important is that?

Originally Posted by snakeplt

Most importantly....was she hot ?

Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot

But many on here are totally "disregarding" the importance of FA's. Ask the passengers on the flight in DEN that rolled off the runway just how important the FA's were. I'm sure their answers might surprise you. While the pilots were busy behind a locked door, the FA's were busy SAVING LIVES. How important is that?

Originally Posted by labbats

No you have SOME ........... While the FAs on that emergency were a vast help, how many minor events have you had to juggle the intercom with the checklist? They aren't always helping an emergency in my experience.

I do believe that FAs have an important function, however today they are far from the original hire nurses and professionals back in the day. While that's a broad brush I'm painting and I've flown with some great guy and girl FAs, it is far more common to find just another weight in the back when the shat hits the fin.