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Old 12-12-2008, 10:57 PM
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Have any of the Express guys heard or have there companies commented on the grievance being put up by mainline pilots? The arbitrator was suppose to go over it on the Dec 8th but the company witness got sick. Anyway they want to ground 17 big rj's but haven't said who's.



To recap prior updates, the TA Dispute #8 was filed because the Company is currently in violation of the total number of “Large Small Jets” they are permitted to operate under the terms and conditions of the Transition Agreement. The Agreement authorizes the Company to operate a maximum combined total (East and West) of 93 Large SJ’s; they are currently operating 110 Large SJ’s. The remedies sought in arbitration include:
Requiring the Company to immediately cease and desist from operating more than 93 Large SJ’s as defined in Section VIII of the Transition Agreement,
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If it goes through I would say Mesa's -900's
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If it goes through I would say Mesa's -900's
Why get rid of the most efficient and less expensive ones?
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didnt they already announce that mesa was giving back airplanes to usair next year?
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didnt they already announce that mesa was giving back airplanes to usair next year?
CRJ200s, at 2 per year
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Probably PSA 700's because the company can.
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Ahh Doug P. said that they wouldn't park any airplanes they owned or had current leases on. Just wouldn't make sense to park airplanes that you are making payments on. So he says....
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Ahh Doug P. said that they wouldn't park any airplanes they owned or had current leases on. Just wouldn't make sense to park airplanes that you are making payments on. So he says....
Wouldn't be the first time he backed on his word. You may be right though since it wouldn't make sense. But the contract carriers need the contractual minimum flying so where would the frames come from? Certainly not RAH's 170 fleet. Especially after "injecting" (read bribing) money into Airways.
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Originally Posted by logic1
Why get rid of the most efficient and less expensive ones?
Because:
1. Airways isn't paying leases on them. If they park PSA -700's they're bleeding cash due to having to pay leases and not making revenue.
2. MAG hasn't infused Airways with cash like Republic has, which was smart of BB to pretty much keep them safe in a situation like this.
3. MAG is on the way out at Airways anyways.
4. You must work for MAG. I was management at MAG and MAG is by no means efficient! But you are correct about them being cheap!
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3. MAG is on the way out at Airways anyways.
I hear Comair is on the way out at Delta. That sucks.
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