DeltaPaySoon

That's exactly why I desire only a handful of training options (preferably at 141 4 year universities) , country wide, for 121 ops monitored and administrated by the FAA.

I have nothing against ATP, Flight Safety, etc. If you want to get your Comm.-Multi in 6 months, knock yourself out. But not to go to 121 ops.

xtreme

I personally don't see how talking about the wright brothers for 4 years makes anybody a better pilot, but that's just my opinion.

Superpilot92

thats exactly what needs to happen.

JetJock16

A few more months of instructing? At Pan Am (in PHX) we all had more students than we could handle and the best I ever did was 134 hours in 30 days. My average at PAIFA was around 90/month with weather that allowed 365 days of flying. How many hours do you gain in an ATP 0-Hero course? 200? 250? 300? That means he/she still needs 1200 hours to meet the 1500TT mins. At an average of 100/month it will take him/her at least 12 months and more than likely longer seeing that the number of FAA enrollments are decreasing due to lack of financing. Plus how many FAA students do PAIFA, DCA and ATP take in every year? Maybe 300-400 between the three (80-90% are now foreign) and not all of them will have the work ethic to work that many hours. That's not near enough to cover demand, just look at how quickly we ran through CFI's a few years ago. And the topper? Imagine what the regionals would have done 3 years ago if 1500TT were the 121 mins. Pilot pay would more than likely be higher than it is today just so they could attract 135er’s and furloughees. His buffer is all we need, it will create a real shortage of pilots willing and able to work for crappy regionals wages after just a few short years of mainline hiring.

Plus let’s say they one or two of these 0-Hero pilots can average 150 hours per month and in June of the same year ends up with the opportunity to get hired by a 121 operator. No airline’s going to hire a pilot who can only fly another 100 hours before they time out for the year. (6 X 150 = 900 – 1000 = 100)

bryris

What an ignorant statement. We know where you came from. After all, we all know the 4 year pilot factories turn out the best pilots the world has ever seen.

fjetter

Just curious where this came from? I work 7days a week at my flight school (usually 2-3 days off a month). The only limitation that I was aware off was the 8hrs instruction in 24hrs rule. I know some schools have company policies of rest for instructors. I'm just not aware of any legislation preventing you from working 7 days a week.

JetJock16

That's right, I was thinking of overtime laws and each states different.

DeltaPaySoon

????

Oh boy, here we go again......

Illini

Our last American student at PAIFA is working on his comm multi. After he is done, we'll be 100 percent Chinese

SebastianDesoto

That's also an ignorant statement. It does not take the big picture into account.

Next time you may feel the need belittle a 4 year school/university, remember your comments reach further than just those pilots. Purdue, ERAU, UND etc...have a much much larger market than just training pilots. Quite a few of the folks that go there are in ROTC programs becoming officers in our armed forces. Are you belittling them too? How about the engineers working for NASA, Boeing, or Lockheed? You can also extend that to dispatchers, Air Traffic Controllers, FAA, management, maintenance, or anyother feild that those schools educate.

I understand as well as anyone how ridiculous it is to invest more money than necessary in flight training. I would NEVER recommend it to anyone. Infact, I have come to believe that flight training is starting to become economically unviable and will fundamentally have to change. However, I will defend those schools. When I think back to my time spent as a student of ERAU I think back to all the freinds I made. The vast majority of them have successful careers outside of flying airplanes for an airline. A lot of them are serving or have served in Iraq or Afgahnistan.

The only thing I am ashamed of is the money I spent. Go get an education in something that will be marketable outside of flying airplanes but that also compliments it, like engineering. One of those overpriced 4 year schools allow for exactly that kind of education (and you can still fly of campus in a 152).