Da808er

We used to shoot the NDB approach into Harrison, AR in the Beech 1900's when the winds would favor the specific runway with the NDB approach. Not my favorite approach but not all that bad.

.......runway in site......10 o'clock! hehe

iflythewest

They will not hand feed you any information here or give you a second chance if you fail. You must be able to study hard everyday as if you will be sent home tomorrow. Looking back on it, it is all a blur as it went by quickly because you are busy stressing and studying. The NDB is not too bad with the RMI in arc mode on the EHSI. The hardest thing I did in the sim was a single engine NDB down to the nuts partial panel. When I was hired, I had under 400 hours. Good luck to all that apply!

Purpleanga

That's what they say for half the regional training departments. I'd day the hardest training you will go through are the ones where the company doesn't care if you don't make it through. I'm guessing these are most of the lower tier regionals.

Luv2Rotate

Hmm you'd figure since your not getting paid for training that GL would want you to succeed. Are there alot of pilots applying? One would think GL would want you to succeed since your basically working for free in training and barely being able to afford top ramon once on the line.

1900luxuryliner

Most don't wash in Indoc or Systems, although it has happened; it's usually at some point during Sim. Lakes is just really, really against teaching anyone to fly instruments. They are there to teach you to fly a 1900D in the 121 environment, not how to fly IFR without smashing into a mountain. They adamantly believe that you should be able to fly the following approaches, before entering training: LOC, LOC DME, LOC BC, LOC BC DME, VOR, VOR DME, ILS, ILS DME, and NDB. You should also be able to enter a hold, have situational awareness, fly DME arcs, follow missed approach procedures, circle off an approach, and obviously, have a pretty good instrument scan. If you're worried about these abilities, I recommend hopping in a basic PCATD, before entering training. Your instrument flying should be as good as it was when you got your rating, if not better, because you will have to deal with new emergency and abnormal procedures, all while flying all of the approaches I listed above. Training is stressful enough, but if you are weak in basic instrument flying, it could easily be one of the most stressful events of your life. Hell, it was one of the most stressful events of my life, and I thought I was a pretty good instrument pilot. They will work with weaknesses, to a certain extent, provide you have a good attitude. You don't have to be perfect. You just have to continually make progress, have basic instrument skill, and take the training seriously.

BURflyer

That's pretty impressive. Do you have to demonstrate all of these to be signed off for the checkride? When you say they give you abnormals during these approaches, you're saying caution stuff right? I can't imagine doing anything above other than an ILS or VOR single engine during a checkride or training for that matter.

aviatorhi

Well to give you an idea... the class I was in at Great Lakes for a week (found out that they pay credit time not block time, quit and went to the other airline that had offered me a job, and learned my lesson to do much more thorough research) (where was I? oh yes), that class had 1 out of 18 make it through, 2 (1 myself) chose to discontinue, 5 washed on the systems and 10 washed on the sim, and the only one that made it through was a guy fresh out of riddle.

BURflyer

What was their experience?

aviatorhi

Almost every one was a CFI-CFII-MEI, most had upwards of 800 times in Multis... but it was largely career changers, most with over 1000, some with King Air Turbine experience, myself and 2 others were the "young blood" in the room, of that "young blood" 2 left after a week for better deals the other one made it through.

BURflyer

Wow, was this recently? I though lakes hired mostly low timers.