How TOUGH is Great Lakes Training
12-05-2008, 10:38 AM
#91
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I couldnt agree with 1900lux more.
This place is not that bad. It only takes a few rotten apples to give it a bad name. Sure the pay sucks, but the pay sucked when I was a CFI and at Papa Murphys too. But I still did my job and got through it.
Trogdor: If you're so upset about the way you are treated do something about it. Make recomemdations to the union reps for changes to come in the new contract. (ie: cancelation pay). I jumpseated on UAL last month and those guys complain just as much as we do if not more and they do something about it.
Cheers
Steak
This place is not that bad. It only takes a few rotten apples to give it a bad name. Sure the pay sucks, but the pay sucked when I was a CFI and at Papa Murphys too. But I still did my job and got through it.
Trogdor: If you're so upset about the way you are treated do something about it. Make recomemdations to the union reps for changes to come in the new contract. (ie: cancelation pay). I jumpseated on UAL last month and those guys complain just as much as we do if not more and they do something about it.
Cheers
Steak
12-06-2008, 06:28 PM
#95
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: PA-32 CA, CE-525 CA
Posts: 171
I have to agree with steak. Cancellation pay would be awsome because they don't care about cancelling because it does not cost them anything. As far as the green door-we did not go there we caught the taxi van to the one right across the CO-WY border.
12-06-2008, 07:35 PM
#96
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In Feb 2000 it was TOUGH. Most of my class including me had not flown 135 or 121. INDOC was tough but the instructors were good. Systems sucked because the instructor was half clueless. When you have to quote the FSI xeroxed manual to correct the instructor, well, all credibility and respect has been lost by then.
CPT training wasn't effective, so we weren't prepped for the sim. Five sessions and then to the airplane, where they expected you to take the checkride after three flights.
It was all basically a firehose, then try to catch your breath.
You will fly approaches down the GS at 140 kts, we did then anyway. You will fly a VOR DME arc at 180 kts, probably in a STRONG crosswind. If I hadn't chair flown DME arcs in my dual occupancy motel room in Spencer, IA in blustery March, I wouldn't have made it.
We had about 30 starting out, about 1/3 didn't make it to the line. Good luck to you! If you're confident in your skillsflying and learning ability, there's a good chance you can make it.
CPT training wasn't effective, so we weren't prepped for the sim. Five sessions and then to the airplane, where they expected you to take the checkride after three flights.
It was all basically a firehose, then try to catch your breath.
You will fly approaches down the GS at 140 kts, we did then anyway. You will fly a VOR DME arc at 180 kts, probably in a STRONG crosswind. If I hadn't chair flown DME arcs in my dual occupancy motel room in Spencer, IA in blustery March, I wouldn't have made it.
We had about 30 starting out, about 1/3 didn't make it to the line. Good luck to you! If you're confident in your skillsflying and learning ability, there's a good chance you can make it.
12-07-2008, 11:56 AM
#97
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Stick a fork in it already
Jesus Mary and Joseph.......
I was in the Sept 08 class. We had 16 start and, 11 make it to the line. The training is not that difficult. Just study!!!!!!!!
Yes, I had previous experience at Ameriflight and ExpressJet. The training was no more difficult than it was at AMF. You are expected to do a lot of sefl-directed study.
Please, for the love of god, let this thread die!!!!!!
I was in the Sept 08 class. We had 16 start and, 11 make it to the line. The training is not that difficult. Just study!!!!!!!!
Yes, I had previous experience at Ameriflight and ExpressJet. The training was no more difficult than it was at AMF. You are expected to do a lot of sefl-directed study.
Please, for the love of god, let this thread die!!!!!!
12-07-2008, 01:43 PM
#99
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Seriously you get 5 sessions in the paper tiger followed by 3 sim sessions and then the checkride? At TSA we had 2 sessions in the paper tiger, 8 sim sessions, then a checkride if you were ready. If you weren't ready, you got a couple more sim sessions. It seems like the Beech 1900 is probably more of a bear than the EMB-145 so 3 sim sessions seems like it's not quite enough. Maybe I'm just being a baby or maybe you were exaggerating that part...
12-07-2008, 01:49 PM
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Seriously you get 5 sessions in the paper tiger followed by 3 sim sessions and then the checkride? At TSA we had 2 sessions in the paper tiger, 8 sim sessions, then a checkride if you were ready. If you weren't ready, you got a couple more sim sessions. It seems like the Beech 1900 is probably more of a bear than the EMB-145 so 3 sim sessions seems like it's not quite enough. Maybe I'm just being a baby or maybe you were exaggerating that part...
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