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Old 10-18-2008, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by detpilot
He SHOULD make more than you, not because he works harder or is a better pilot, but because his flights carry more passengers. More seats=more pay, or that's the way it's supposed to be anyway. But hey, what do I know, I'm just some guy trying to make a living...
In theory the saab generates much more revenue than any 200 would. But it is a stupid argument none the less. From first hand experience the saab is much harder to fly (all be it is not hard to fly) and I think most that have done both will have the same opinion.
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
My situation exactly as yours, just got the no thanks email. What ****es me off is at aviationinterviews.com they recently interviewed people less qualified than I.
Are you basing this purely on TT and ME time? work experience? College degree? Type of Multi flown? Aircraft Experience? My point being, sorry if this is not the case, but TT sometimes doesn't make your resume better than another resume.
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sigep_nm
In theory the saab generates much more revenue than any 200 would. But it is a stupid argument none the less. From first hand experience the saab is much harder to fly (all be it is not hard to fly) and I think most that have done both will have the same opinion.
I've done both now and I pretty much agree with what you said also. I do think though that there are harder parts for both and easier parts depending on the topic.
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Old 10-19-2008, 07:11 AM
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How difficult one plane is to fly over another is a matter of opinion and a pilots income shouldn't be based on that. I think ALPA uses a formula that takes into consideration number of seats, cruise speed and lift capacity. This is how it should be for Mesaba FO's as well. Maybe next time our company won't be in bankruptcy when we are trying to negotiate a better contract.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
My situation exactly as yours, just got the no thanks email. What ****es me off is at aviationinterviews.com they recently interviewed people less qualified than I.
When did you submit your app if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:23 AM
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If you use the theory that a more difficult airplane should pay more then the DC9 drivers at NW should make the most amount of money over there. That aircraft is obviously more difficult to fly than anything else that they have over there. Of course that is just not the case now is it.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGRIG
I think that most people that are FO's on the -900 don't think about it either way. I think that if you take away the handful of people that went from the Saab to the -900 this past 6 months, every other FO at the company was hired into the equipment they are on. It was all luck of the draw. Would having different rates on the equiment create a little animosity over something that is randomly assigned? Were most of these 5-6 year FO's able to upgrade before that, but wanted to wait till they could hold a certain base like MSP?
The fact is you would have the same break down on the FO side as the captain side. Meaning the larger planes would go more senior because of the better pay (and possibly easier job). All newhires would likely be put in the saab and could progress upward for a pay increase before upgrade. Its just the way it should be, more pay for larger planes. It seems the captains wouldn't give that up in negotaitions... too bad they sold out the FOs.
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sigep_nm
In theory the saab generates much more revenue than any 200 would. But it is a stupid argument none the less. From first hand experience the saab is much harder to fly (all be it is not hard to fly) and I think most that have done both will have the same opinion.
Depends on what you are comparing. Landing, the CRJ is hardest. Speed wise/ keeping ahead the CRJ is hardest. Getting around weather the Saab is hardest. Completely forgetting how to fly, the Avro was best at that.... Couldn't bounce it if you tried.... well ok but it was a bit of luck and still to bounce it.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:33 PM
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This industry is nuts...I would have to be at Mesaba for 6 years to make what I make at my current regional at 2nd year pay, and I don;t agree with our payrate.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
Unless they changed it, you get per diem during your entire sim training.
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if your sim training is outside of MSP
Awesome, I just arrived in Denver today and I did not know that. :-)
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