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Old 10-08-2008, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Corny357
As I understand in the 91 regs (91.21), a.) it only applies to IFR, and b.) it is at the discretion of PIC. Can someone confirm?
The 91 reg covers electronic devices in the cockpit...this is at the PIC's discretion.

In 121, the PIC has no discretion on that. Also 121 requires that no non-essential activities or conversations occur below 10,000' (or cruise altitude if lower than 10,000). That is the bigger issue in 121.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TristarJS30
As opposed to upgrading their antique ATC system and creating safe duty regs to fight pilot fatigue? I think you were missing my point.

And please, don't turn this into a FlightInfo thread about those "dang young inexperienced pilots with ipods, hairgel, and no hats."
I don't need to. The subject matter of this particular thread already implies that they are the group in question.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The 91 reg covers electronic devices in the cockpit...this is at the PIC's discretion.

In 121, the PIC has no discretion on that. Also 121 requires that no non-essential activities or conversations occur below 10,000' (or cruise altitude if lower than 10,000). That is the bigger issue in 121.
Thanks, Rick.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lab Rat
I don't need to. The subject matter of this particular thread already implies that they are the group in question.
I've flown with PLENTY of old balding 20 year captains that take pics and film things when they shouldn't. This does not apply only to the young guys. In this case maybe these vids do because a lot of shinny headed, blazer and hat wearing capts don't know how to upload a video. Just my two cents. No need to sterotype who does what.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:34 PM
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It is amazing the one sided narrow focused vision of the FAA. It is perfectly ok for a manager pilot at American to use a cell phone while taxiing; but this is a big no-no. We had to remind a jumpseating FAA inspector a couple years back to turn his cell phone off.

And I see just as many older pilots not wearing bus-driver hats as younger pilots. (I do wear my hat in case you want to attack me)
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredwLife
I've flown with PLENTY of old balding 20 year captains that take pics and film things when they shouldn't. This does not apply only to the young guys. In this case maybe these vids do because a lot of shinny headed, blazer and hat wearing capts don't know how to upload a video. Just my two cents. No need to sterotype who does what.
Therein lies the problem. In this case videotaping is one thing, the other is how dumb do you have to be to post those videos on the internet?
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flyandive
Therein lies the problem. In this case videotaping is one thing, the other is how dumb do you have to be to post those videos on the internet?
I completely agree with you. Common sense would tell you to keep them private.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:06 PM
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wow.. airliners.net's photographers will have a lot of explaining to do.... Everyone's names are posted, and there are thousands of pictures taken from the cockpit below 10,000.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
I find it amusing how every FAA inspector who used to be a pilot tells some long story about why they left flying the line to work there and how they needed to be home every night because of their family, blah blah blah. Like there is an acceptable reason for turning traitor on your own people.

And it was funny to hear the bunch of them at the FSDO recently all lamenting about the cutbacks in federal spending and how they might not get the $200 per hour pay they have gotten used to. Ironically I have never gotten a straight answer from any FAA inspector about any questions I have had but they all seem pretty sure of themselves in the jumpseat. It's just disgusting.

Turning traitor?
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by maxfli5o
wow.. airliners.net's photographers will have a lot of explaining to do.... Everyone's names are posted, and there are thousands of pictures taken from the cockpit below 10,000.


I've wondered about this myself... Many are in foreign countries where the regs may be more lax, but the shots on short final obviously made by crew members always get my attention because they seem like such a good way to get yourself in a lot of trouble with the company and FAA-types.

What about taking pics in the ramp area of aircraft? Maybe I'm paranoid, but I haven't done this because I'm worried some TSA guy will bust me for it. Thoughts?
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