ToiletDuck

Lets hope RAH runs a better business then Go! I want to believe that article is misleading. Lets cross our fingers.

Killer51883

this article is nothing more than a perfect example of how pathetic journalists are. they dont have any real facts except for what they read off of an internet forum. i bet if we went into that thread and said the code share was going to be united starting inter island flying they would write that into a follow up article tomorrow.

hi208

RAH won't be running the show mokulele is going to be doing that. Mokulele has bought 2 e jets and just needs the crew to fly them. IMO thats probably the only reason that Boyer is jumping into bed with RAH.

Green Banana

Alaska has been doing very well in this market. We are going straight to the outer islands though, so I don't think you will see an inter island agreement.

ToiletDuck

I don't know the finer details but I'm pretty sure the E-Jets belong to RAH. There's no advantage to the company to outsource flight crew only. No real money in it. The jets are RAH jets. The crews are RAH crews. I don't think an express carrier for Go! could even afford the gas on E-Jets.

BBedford

Delta said "hey RAH...we're going for the 175's....do us a favor: it's your job to put the nail in Mesa's coffin."

Rightseat Ballast

ok, perhaps time will prove me wrong, but...

I see serious flaws in the written article and in the consensus built on this thread that RAH will be operating a small number of aircraft in Hawaii on behalf of Mokulele. One, going to Hawaii is a HUGE investment. RAH operates at minimal risk, and only enters risky agreements if it stands to gain both in the success and the failure of the agreement( loans to Frontier and Midwest that put RAH at the front of the claim line should either fail). RAH is not going to retrofit a handful of planes for the trip over, and then re-refit them for passenger service, send a significant spare parts inventory, send mechanics and crews and the necessary support staff, AND finance/subsidize the operations of a Caravan operator...UNLESS they are receiving backing from another major operator who stands to gain from this arrangement. It is a lot of money you are talking about to send four planes over in hopes of maybe taking a small part of a limited market that is expecting decline, having no customer base or request from the existing customer base for another new airline. Go hasn't left yet. It is still a crowded market. Mokulele does not have the kind of money laying around to make this deal worth it for BB. Money is coming from somewhere. Delta could spend a lot less money by paying lawyers to end MESA. No one needs to send planes to Hawaii to bleed off MESA. One article has been printed by a local newspaper that is quoting directly off of this website (or from a memo provided to them) stating RAH's intention to POSSIBLY open a base in HI. Considering no press release has been made, and the w'low memo did not name a partner airline, I think it is a little soon to think it is Mokulele. No reputable news source has even hinted at Mokulele. Mokulele makes no sense. I could see some alignment between the two only because Mokulele knows that Go will go away, and it is enjoying having a large traffic source feed passengers to them. However, RAH is not going to Hawaii at the behest of Mokulele, and RAH is not going to do standalone operations with 4 planes or less in a completely foreign market with no established customer base, in a declining market. If BB wanted to do some minor standalone work to keep the former F9 birds flying, it would be on the mainland where crews, parts, and other support is readily available. hawaii is too far from the hornet's nest. BB has said repeatedly to his employees that he has no intention of deviating from the CPA business model anytime in the foreseeable future. There are too many risks operating outside of that model that BB does not need to take. Buying fuel in hawaii? Bedford doesn't even buy gas on the mainland. IF RAH ends up in Hawaii, SOMEONE will be defraying the costs and insulating BB from the real finances of airline operations. Maybe Alaska. Maybe Delta. Maybe United. There is more to this deal. Wait and see. Right now it just doesn't make sense.

Oskeewowow

I have to agree. This is the same company that backed out of Salt Lake because it wasn't profitable enough. There has to be some behind the scenes wheeling & dealing going on. The chips just do not add up for this to be simply a two way deal.

NonRev4Life

This goes to show that your intelligence level is that of a pre-private, cause I work at RAH and when I went to the ralley I was met with no animosity. Where were you if you support Midwest soo much? Ohh that's right, to busy with your head in the sand spewing crap out that you hear from the other missing links at blojets.

Bond

So let me get this straight, RAH's management is going after Midwest destroying hundreds of jobs in the process; and now they want to pull a "go" and chase after Hawaiian? Excellent, I can't wait to see how this is going to go, I've got my popcorn ready.

BTW, for all the fanatics out there, I said RAH's management not their pilots. With the exception of 1 very naive individual, I really do have the outmost respect for that pilot group.