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Old 09-25-2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
Is this the DAL stuff, or the united CRJ's?
Good luck to all involved
UA/US CRJ.

They have already run the displacement for the Freedom -900 guys.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
I can't speak for Mesa, but I can speak about displacements/furloughs from experience.

If they displace 100 captains back to FO, that creates 200 surplus FO's. 100 less captains = 100 less FO's...when the 100 captains displace back to FO, that makes another 100 junior FO's redundant.
Mesa may have a higher CA to FO ratio than other carriers. All CA's were right seat qualified, and were frequently used (and abused) in the right seat.
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have heard multiple rumors (some from credible people) about an additional furlough of atleast 150 FO's. no specifics provided. just a rumor floating around. makes sense given what others are saying.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:58 PM
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I also heard that they are asking for voluntary leave of absences or 150 will be furloughed.
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
With the post summer slowdown, we are extremely overstaffed . . .
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Were still junior assigning people . . .
Extremely overstaffed, yet junior assignments. 'paxhauler', please tell me you had a good reason for not pulling the ejection handle during the hiring frenzy of 2006-2007.

Don't understand how we could go from extremely short to 180 fat in 2 months.
Mismanagement?

Good luck guys.
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Don't understand how we could go from extremely short to 180 fat in 2 months.
Welcome to Delta's playground. Comair went from hiring 300 in June to furloughing 200 in August.

We can call it "the Delta Effect".
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"Welcome to the new Delta"

'Have a Delta Day!"

"Good goes around"
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Welcome to Delta's playground. Comair went from hiring 300 in June to furloughing 200 in August.

We can call it "the Delta Effect".

Just a small point about the Delta effect. Delta management almost two years ago finally grew a pair and told all the connection carriers that if they did not perform they could expect to be cut. Both Mesa and Comair's performance can only be called abhorrant. Comair is last in virtually every measure of customer service looking at every airline in the country. I have waited for Comair flights while crews went off to eat for 45 minutes on a scheduled 30 minute turn at 11 in the morning. I have even heard Comair flight crews make statements like F___ Em, They are Delta's passengers. If Comairs performance had been top notch they would be a much larger airline today.
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I have waited for Comair flights while crews went off to eat for 45 minutes on a scheduled 30 minute turn at 11 in the morning. I have even heard Comair flight crews make statements like F___ Em, They are Delta's passengers. If Comairs performance had been top notch they would be a much larger airline today.
Until an airline treats their employees with dignity and offers schedules where you can actually have to time to eat or take a break just like even a janitor can, I would take my sweet time enjoy every last minute of my turnround time at the pax expense. Or better yet, do it like the Mesa crews, where they don't even show up all together.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:34 AM
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I am curious do u work for mainline? Let me tell you then cause u might understand a little about how our day's work I have been here for eight years so I am just a little experienced at this. when you have a 2day trip scheduled, and u have 6 legs on day one all with 20 min turns with a 13.5 hour duty day scheduled and no crew meals for breakfast and the only place that there will even be an opportunity to eat for the whole day and you have a problem with a crew getting food give me a break! what do u think we are machines.when I tell my crew to take a food break u think were doing it to be spiteful?wow u have no idea.
Next time you nonrev jumpseat whatever youi do why dont you ask the crew what kind of day they r having you might have a better insight.
I am done being pi---d off.. Anyone else want to jump in??

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Just a small point about the Delta effect. Delta management almost two years ago finally grew a pair and told all the connection carriers that if they did not perform they could expect to be cut. Both Mesa and Comair's performance can only be called abhorrant. Comair is last in virtually every measure of customer service looking at every airline in the country. I have waited for Comair flights while crews went off to eat for 45 minutes on a scheduled 30 minute turn at 11 in the morning. I have even heard Comair flight crews make statements like F___ Em, They are Delta's passengers. If Comairs performance had been top notch they would be a much larger airline today.
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