latest Pinnacle rumor
08-29-2008, 06:47 PM
#181
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 426
lol, I guess you like it dry and rub-rawed! Don't take it personal man, I'm just stating the reality of the situation.
In any event, I agree with the last several posts. Treating your equipment like trash because you're mad things aren't going your way is about the most immature thing i've seen suggested here and it ultimately makes no difference to management. Taking your frustration out on the planes by not flexing is just wearing the engines out faster increasing the likely hood that the next guy that takes it out might have issues. Running the APU nonstop is just making your summer more like hell when they break down every other day. You are screwing yourselves, not the company.
Just do things by the book and the system will break itself down. You will block out late more often... You will have more write-ups more often... etc etc etc... I run into crews every single day that found problems with the airplane yet chose to continue flying it because they didn't want their day delayed/ruined. This is not wrong or unethical it's simply flying by the book.
All this b.s. aside though folks. None of this would be an issue if the RLA actually worked during a republican administration. I hope everyone votes this coming November.
In any event, I agree with the last several posts. Treating your equipment like trash because you're mad things aren't going your way is about the most immature thing i've seen suggested here and it ultimately makes no difference to management. Taking your frustration out on the planes by not flexing is just wearing the engines out faster increasing the likely hood that the next guy that takes it out might have issues. Running the APU nonstop is just making your summer more like hell when they break down every other day. You are screwing yourselves, not the company.
Just do things by the book and the system will break itself down. You will block out late more often... You will have more write-ups more often... etc etc etc... I run into crews every single day that found problems with the airplane yet chose to continue flying it because they didn't want their day delayed/ruined. This is not wrong or unethical it's simply flying by the book.
All this b.s. aside though folks. None of this would be an issue if the RLA actually worked during a republican administration. I hope everyone votes this coming November.
Last edited by Noseeums; 08-29-2008 at 06:54 PM.
08-29-2008, 10:09 PM
#182
New Hire
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: CRJ 200 FO
Posts: 8
I agree and absolutely love the comment. After I cooled off a little bit some of the thoughts are a bit over the top. The ones I think we should try are:
1. Safe (by that DC9 or slower) taxi
2. Pick up no time, in fact try to drop as many trips as possible/able
3. Dont check in.
4. NEVER pick up the phone, remember that is your home phone and thats what voicemail is for.
5. Only use company communication radio/batphone/AIRINC
6. Have a problem, call once - let them sort it out when your 45min late
7. Anything out of the ordinary - write it up, even if you know its an easy fix
8. Call for commissary/lav change 5-10 prior maybe you make maybe you dont.
9. Ask for contingency fuel as often as possible.
Anybody else got any ideas.
1. Safe (by that DC9 or slower) taxi
2. Pick up no time, in fact try to drop as many trips as possible/able
3. Dont check in.
4. NEVER pick up the phone, remember that is your home phone and thats what voicemail is for.
5. Only use company communication radio/batphone/AIRINC
6. Have a problem, call once - let them sort it out when your 45min late
7. Anything out of the ordinary - write it up, even if you know its an easy fix
8. Call for commissary/lav change 5-10 prior maybe you make maybe you dont.
9. Ask for contingency fuel as often as possible.
Anybody else got any ideas.
I understand that you guys are all going through some major bulls&*t with your contract but try and remember ANYONE CAN READ THIS PUBLIC FORUM!! -If your pilots are openly condoning behavior such as delaying flights, or possibly abusing/damaging aircraft, I wonder how Delta/NWA (or paying passengers for that matter) would think of these ideas coming from the Pinnacle pilot group?? This next year will be difficult for all of the 7+ regionals operating for the new Delta (my airline included), but to stay competetive (and keeping our jobs) I think we will all have to display professionalism even when management sticks it to us... on-time performance and operating costs are critical. *Do your job safely and efficiently, its what they pay you to do.
08-30-2008, 09:18 AM
#185
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 787
I understand that you guys are all going through some major bulls&*t with your contract but try and remember ANYONE CAN READ THIS PUBLIC FORUM!! -If your pilots are openly condoning behavior such as delaying flights, or possibly abusing/damaging aircraft, I wonder how Delta/NWA (or paying passengers for that matter) would think of these ideas coming from the Pinnacle pilot group?? This next year will be difficult for all of the 7+ regionals operating for the new Delta (my airline included), but to stay competetive (and keeping our jobs) I think we will all have to display professionalism even when management sticks it to us... on-time performance and operating costs are critical. *Do your job safely and efficiently, its what they pay you to do.
08-30-2008, 09:40 AM
#187
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 154
I understand that you guys are all going through some major bulls&*t with your contract but try and remember ANYONE CAN READ THIS PUBLIC FORUM!! -If your pilots are openly condoning behavior such as delaying flights, or possibly abusing/damaging aircraft, I wonder how Delta/NWA (or paying passengers for that matter) would think of these ideas coming from the Pinnacle pilot group?? This next year will be difficult for all of the 7+ regionals operating for the new Delta (my airline included), but to stay competetive (and keeping our jobs) I think we will all have to display professionalism even when management sticks it to us... on-time performance and operating costs are critical. *Do your job safely and efficiently, its what they pay you to do.About the APU and flexing:
Don't do anything that you don't feel comfortable with. Period. The fact that the APU brakes is not the problem, the problem is the scary ass captain that can't say no to a broken APU on a 100 degree day.
Flexing. A full take off is not dangerous at all. Flexing helps on the long run, but like cause problems or safety issues to the next crew or yourself doesnt' make much sense. Want to know why? If you really care about engine wear and power output, you gotta start flying ITT not N1 carets. Just check your ITT on a cruise climb, I guarantte you is going to be hotter than a full take off 90% of the time. Is just the way the CRJ works. Also, a full take off the ITT doesn't even get close to the max ITT for T/0 (884). Anyways, whatever you guys want to do, just do it, I couldn't care less neither at this point. Good luck to everybody, no contract will come for christmas.
08-30-2008, 10:03 AM
#188
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 154
ohh and by the way, a buddy of mine just call me and told me how everybody in the crew room was excited about the 900s we are supposed to be getting from DL (ex-freedom's). Congratulations TEAM ! we are doing great. Keep doing what we've been doing it. Just make sure you run faster following that juicy carrot ! Who needs a contract, we got BIG airplanes !!! and they are shinny!!!
08-30-2008, 10:05 AM
#189
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Flap Operator
Posts: 73
I understand that you guys are all going through some major bulls&*t with your contract but try and remember ANYONE CAN READ THIS PUBLIC FORUM!! -If your pilots are openly condoning behavior such as delaying flights, or possibly abusing/damaging aircraft, I wonder how Delta/NWA (or paying passengers for that matter) would think of these ideas coming from the Pinnacle pilot group?? This next year will be difficult for all of the 7+ regionals operating for the new Delta (my airline included), but to stay competetive (and keeping our jobs) I think we will all have to display professionalism even when management sticks it to us... on-time performance and operating costs are critical. *Do your job safely and efficiently, its what they pay you to do.All I am calling 9E pilots to do is take extra safety precautions and give the same effort toward the company that they are showing us.
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