skidmark

I would be concerned about the FAA in the jumpseat on one of those planes listening to all of this.

Airsupport

not all the panels on the crj are held closed by the slip stream. the oxygen service panel, external ac connecter, ac service panel, etc etc are straight opening panels. meaning if at the right time the panel is held open, it will stay open in flight, those doors arent built to close in the slip stream. there have been several crj takeoff aborts reported for the oxygen service panel door being left open. the smart guys at bombardier put that door right infront of the f.o.'s pitot static tube. at about 80 kts all the bells and whistles go off as the captains airspeed says 80 while the fo's fluctuates between 0 and 80.

hslightnin

we called that kinda of stuff Molson logic on the -8

ConnectionPilot

The scary part is, 90% of the time you won't know it's open until you takeoff. When I do my preflight, I always make sure its closed. If the ground crew needs to open it, they will...once you finish the preflight, thats about all you can do.

On Autopilot

I wouldn't do it. Lots of noise, maybe they got an ops spec that allows for that. I doubt it though.

flynavyj

not sure of the latching location, however on the ERJ, I had a oil service door depart the nacelle, taking a nice section of the cowling with it.....It however, doesn't latch in the same direction as the typical doors on the airplane, in which they'll be pushed towards the closed position during flight......bad design on someone's part.

Boomer

Comair has installed a screw to hold that service panel shut. Opening it is now a MX function. I dunno if that is for aborts, or because it is in the RVSM critical zone. The screws went in about the same time RVSM was kicked off.

As far as taking off with open panels...
3 CEOs ago, Comair had a (rumored) incident in CVG where a crew was alerted to an open panel during taxi-out. Rather than stop and close it, they elected to continue to their destination. This action was passed along by concourse C ramp tower, and (rumor has it) the pilots were disciplined for their lack of judgement.

What is known is that a memo came out as a result and there is now a specific instruction to return to the gate if a panel is open, or even suspected to be open.

Mesa? Maybe they just close it at the next stop. If it's still attached to the plane.

xjsaab

Great stuff but I was only refering to the HP air door.

gintasr

That External Service Door is a pretty big no-no... its right near the Pitot-Static and could cause erronious readings... especially unsafe in RVSM...

LoudFastRules

So, would someone please answer the question: What is the deal with the HP air door?

Will the slip stream shut it? If it does, will it latch? If it doesn't latch, will it bounce around, or will the slip stream effectively hold it shut. Let's hold off on the judgement, and can someone just practically state what will happen with this particular door, please?

XJSaab hasn't answered with enough detail to clear this up for folks who don't fly the CRJ.