billyho

It will eventually be growth but there could be some stagnation for a year or so. However the good news is they will hire directly into the jet now. This will help them grow a bunch faster then current hiring model where people with jet time were forced into a dash. Had to be done and will actually work better as they try and grow.

MantisToboggan

Stagnation for a while, yet we'll be growing a bunch faster? Maybe I'm just getting the surface of your argument, but I don't understand

billyho

Yes, that's what I meant. Stagnation for maybe a year or more. But to get more pilots from other regional airlines they might have to up the wages and QOL. Unless a few regional airlines go out of biz.

Jersdawg

I get that optimism, but here at ENY, we are paying guys 5g's to fly the CRJ or 145 because they all come wanting to fly the 175. I dunno that the 145 will be that big a draw for you guys. all three WOs need to raise the damn pay.

MantisToboggan

Agreed. however, PDT hiring is keeping up with attrition right now, and that's with guys knowing they'll fly the dash. Logic says the 145 will bring in at least some more guys, and lead to growth (even if it's slow). But you're right, it'll solve some of our issues now, but won't be a long term fix. After all, the 145s certainly aren't new.

I'll never understand choosing an airframe over career progression, but hey, not my career choice haha

CLT Guy

PSA can get another 40-something CRJ700s is they can staff them. Instead, no one is coming and stagnation has set in.

Just because you have projected growth doesn't mean it is going no to happen. Not in this market. Stagnation and shrinking is not a good thing, even for only a year. Today's announcement was not a good thing.

I can't imagine 145s that will be in the desert in a few years being much of a draw. Heck, if fuel prices go up, I wouldn't be surprised if the 145s start getting parked before all of the Dash's leave.

MantisToboggan

Read the letter again

Tell me, and please provide quotes, where it ever says we'll be retiring one dash per every jet coming in?

Hell, even with them parking one dash per month, where in that letter does it say we'll continue at the delivery rate of one jet per month?

What it does say, however, is that AA is "committing additional regional jets to Piedmont starting in 2017". It also says that the delivery schedule of the jets will be "aggressive". New bases were alluded to, and new routes were outright promised.

I get it, you guys are used to being screwed here at PDT. You guys also thought the company was going under a couple years ago. Here we are.

I don't know where this talk of stagnation or shrinkage even started, but it makes absolutely zero sense. maybe you've been at pdt for 20 years and haven't gotten a new type rating in just as many years, and your afraid of the jet. If you're that afraid of a new type maybe you should be scared for your job, rather than get all ****y about pdt moving on from the dash. If you thought we weren't gonna grow before this announcement then I get your stance, the market is tough for a company to grow right now. But please explain to me how this announcement is negative

aviator493

I need a few beers to help process this industry.


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MKUltra

I am optomistic about this news. I spend a lot of time at flight schools still.. Most of the kids shy a bit away about the dash, but I don't hear much objection from the 145.. They just can't wait to get out of the Cessna they are sweating in. I've received 3 resumes to submit today for references today based on the news and buzz released from this press release. I'm interested to see what will happen.

Although I complain I'm happy I got in when I did. I'm a senior fo life gets better every single month.

Flyjustin

We have to do this in order to grow/recruit. PDT needs to rid itself of turbo-props & outstation basing if it plans on finding applicants, todays pilots are commuters. Also our performance is awful. Its not stagnation because that flow we have is going to keep the movement.