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05-28-2016, 05:17 PM
#8521
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This.... No AAG wholly owned can grow unless AAG decides to up the compensation. Period. It's just not happening. Envoy is ultimately shrinking. PSA has likely no growth left because we can barely staff what we have. And Piedmont is growing at Mach turtle. And it's only going to get worse going into 2017 and beyond. I'm not so optimistic that the flow is anything more than a way to get the top-paid regional CAs off the seniority lists and also attract some new hires. If you are more than 2 years from flowing I wouldn't count on it. Too much will change.
05-28-2016, 06:09 PM
#8522
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This.... No AAG wholly owned can grow unless AAG decides to up the compensation. Period. It's just not happening. Envoy is ultimately shrinking. PSA has likely no growth left because we can barely staff what we have. And Piedmont is growing at Mach turtle. And it's only going to get worse going into 2017 and beyond. I'm not so optimistic that the flow is anything more than a way to get the top-paid regional CAs off the seniority lists and also attract some new hires. If you are more than 2 years from flowing I wouldn't count on it. Too much will change.
05-28-2016, 06:25 PM
#8523
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This.... No AAG wholly owned can grow unless AAG decides to up the compensation. Period. It's just not happening. Envoy is ultimately shrinking. PSA has likely no growth left because we can barely staff what we have. And Piedmont is growing at Mach turtle. And it's only going to get worse going into 2017 and beyond. I'm not so optimistic that the flow is anything more than a way to get the top-paid regional CAs off the seniority lists and also attract some new hires. If you are more than 2 years from flowing I wouldn't count on it. Too much will change.
05-28-2016, 07:42 PM
#8524
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I don't have anything figured out any more than you do compadre. But I think AA has a history of taking giant craps on its regional(s) and all the current signs point to another giant turd in the making. That could always change tomorrow though. All I know is that if AAG intends for its regional's to not only succeed but grow, they have a long way to go and not a lot of time to get there.
05-28-2016, 07:55 PM
#8525
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More like who doesn't have the wool pulled over their eyes. If we want to know how it's going to play out, all we have to do is look at the other WOs. The WO Presidents love to give lip service, but in the end they aren't calling the shots. Though it's endearing that he gives you a warm fuzzy feeling about the future.
05-29-2016, 03:51 AM
#8526
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I don't have anything figured out any more than you do compadre. But I think AA has a history of taking giant craps on its regional(s) and all the current signs point to another giant turd in the making. That could always change tomorrow though. All I know is that if AAG intends for its regional's to not only succeed but grow, they have a long way to go and not a lot of time to get there.
05-29-2016, 04:42 AM
#8527
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Exactly...
We have to remember that this is USAirways management. Yes, before as American Eagle, AMR wanted to divest us before BK. Then they started diversifying their feed, but things were stable and not much BS was going around.
It is important to notice, that without the merger, PSA/PDT/ENY wouldn't be in the position that they are today. AA would be in a better position standing alone.
We have to remember that this is USAirways management. Yes, before as American Eagle, AMR wanted to divest us before BK. Then they started diversifying their feed, but things were stable and not much BS was going around.
It is important to notice, that without the merger, PSA/PDT/ENY wouldn't be in the position that they are today. AA would be in a better position standing alone.
05-29-2016, 08:22 AM
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05-29-2016, 08:42 AM
#8530
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I agree that management was in a pinch and needed the regionals to play ball so the merger could be completed.
Now management is going back on their word and not honoring contracts. But the bind they are in is that nobody would buy a regional. At least not in the current form. I can see AA owning the aircraft and then farming out the pilots/mechanics/dispatchers...
Basically selling the management aspect of the regionals. But all materials will be owned by AA.
PSA/PDT can be sold for much less. Then it's up to the management company to staff and operate. But no one is going to buy PSA and 100 regional jets for a 5 year contract term.
Now management is going back on their word and not honoring contracts. But the bind they are in is that nobody would buy a regional. At least not in the current form. I can see AA owning the aircraft and then farming out the pilots/mechanics/dispatchers...
Basically selling the management aspect of the regionals. But all materials will be owned by AA.
PSA/PDT can be sold for much less. Then it's up to the management company to staff and operate. But no one is going to buy PSA and 100 regional jets for a 5 year contract term.
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