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05-17-2016, 06:23 PM
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AA Fleet being 50 frames smaller will be no issue at all. It's spread out over then next 3-4 years. 50 Frames = 500 pilots and AA is retiring over a thousand or more by that point. Plus there's a really chance we'll see more Group 1 planes. I'm hoping down the road all the Wo'ed pilots are given a seniority number and hired into Group 1 planes.
As far as the WO getting pilots.. All three legacy carriers are going to have to rethink their model. It's just not working..
05-17-2016, 06:46 PM
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Boom! Done deal. Then we can keep all the flying in house.
05-18-2016, 07:41 AM
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I can't imagine the union integration there.... what a mess..
05-18-2016, 07:48 AM
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05-18-2016, 09:10 AM
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Well for the flow part they can go with the AAG Company Seniority. Doesn't matter which WO you are, you go by company seniority.
That would be an easy fix. Now merged seniority list for bidding purposes is a completely different escenario.
That would be an easy fix. Now merged seniority list for bidding purposes is a completely different escenario.
05-18-2016, 09:41 AM
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Well if you compare it to PSA/ENVOY they probably aren't lying. Just don't wait the for the flow. Get your PIC time and Apply to the other Legacy carriers.
05-18-2016, 09:44 AM
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Yes, I say just staple them to the bottom and go from there. You like your seniority on the CRJ/ERJ then you can hang out and keep it. If you want to move up to Group 1 planes then that's fine also because the plane will still be kinda junior. You want to wait till you can hold a line as a FO on Group 2 then its up to you.
I say staple the WOs on the bottom and many problem could be solved getting pilots.
05-18-2016, 09:55 AM
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Piedmont's flow being the fastest is tied to the seniority list growing. It's pretty clear that is not happening right now, even with a hub base and fleet growth.
Envoy's flow is projected at 6 years, even with the company taking the minimum. It's true, without new hires, the company would have to park airplanes to continue the flow. It's unlikely, but contractually, that's what's required.
So stop saying Piedmonts flow is the fastest. It's clearly not under the current conditions. Upgrade is definitely the fastest of the wholly owned's, but not flow.
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