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03-02-2016, 08:52 AM

#7981

aviator493

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Oh yeah, any former Bayland CFIs turned PDT pilots on here?!?!

03-02-2016, 08:54 AM

#7982

MantisToboggan

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Originally Posted by aviator493

What if it's been 8 years since I logged 121 time? Does my time still count? Trying to read into the "current" portion of the offer. How is it paid? Some places like Silver offer 12K, but you don't get the last part until after 3 years?!? Odd.... I have 2600 hours, but like I said, last 121 flight was 8 years ago. Lost my medical for a bit...

My guess is you'd be SOL, but what do I know. A quick call to recruiters will certainly clear that up though

03-02-2016, 08:56 AM

#7983

Skyvector

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

I was going to say... No retention bonuses? Hmmm...
I was under the impression that you guys were beginning to show a slow in the hiring department just like the rest of us.

Retention and Hiring are two different issues.

03-02-2016, 08:57 AM

#7984

MantisToboggan

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Originally Posted by Skyvector

Retention and Hiring are two different issues.

Is Envoy having issues with attrition?

03-02-2016, 08:58 AM

#7985

PilotJ3

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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan

Is Envoy having issues with attrition?

On the FO side. People are moving to better places, CAs are waiting for the flow.

03-02-2016, 09:01 AM

#7986

egl2fdx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MantisToboggan

Is Envoy having issues with attrition?

More street hired at American and other majors than planned. Both seats BTW.

03-02-2016, 09:05 AM

#7987

Jersdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

I was going to say... No retention bonuses? Hmmm...
I was under the impression that you guys were beginning to show a slow in the hiring department just like the rest of us.

PDT is upgrading guys extremely quickly. There's not much of a need for FO retention bonuses if an FO upgrades in five months.

03-02-2016, 09:07 AM

#7988

Skyvector

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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan

Is Envoy having issues with attrition?

Potentially. It hasn't been too bad...but at this point the company needs to retain as many pilots as possible for additional flying. Take that for what it's worth.

03-02-2016, 09:11 AM

#7989

RyanP

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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan

BUT.... no retention bonus like Envoy?

You have 1 year or less upgrades. No need for retention $$$ like Envoy. We have 7-8 year FO's still that are ready to quit everyday. Big difference.

03-02-2016, 09:13 AM

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MantisToboggan

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Originally Posted by Jersdawg

PDT is upgrading guys extremely quickly. There's not much of a need for FO retention bonuses if an FO upgrades in five months.

Guys with prior 121 are upgrading in five months.
Guys with prior 121 are getting an extra $10k in bonuses.

Prior 121 pilots are reaping all the benefits. What about guys without prior 121? the majority of new hire classes are not coming from another regional.

I understand this is a move to steal pilots from contract carriers and bring all the flying to the WOs, but it completely neglects the majority of the guys PDT is hiring at the moment