PDT News and Rumors
02-14-2016, 05:26 AM
#7882
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Joined APC: May 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 238
Really? Lets, do some math.
I've heard reserves can easily credit 85 hours a month, or $280 over guarantee . Let's be conservative at say $350/month for per diem. That sums to $630 a month and over three months $1890. At a typical 1000 credit hours a year, that is a 6.5% pay decrease. So the company can just allow a person who's ATP is about to expire, or needed for an instant upgrade to just cut everyone else and cost them approx $1890. And this leap frogging would push back the wait for sims even more, making the lost $$$ worse. As my man Chris Rock once said, "That aint right".
Training backlogs are a pain for everyone, but take a number and get in line. I guess those waiting for sim can get part time jobs to make up for the difference.
But I get it, the probationary pilots who this affects have no representation within the union. Or maybe it doesn't happen RIGHT NOW often enough to really be an issue. I should add that I am not at PDT, just trying to look out for my ALPA brothers and sisters.
I've heard reserves can easily credit 85 hours a month, or $280 over guarantee . Let's be conservative at say $350/month for per diem. That sums to $630 a month and over three months $1890. At a typical 1000 credit hours a year, that is a 6.5% pay decrease. So the company can just allow a person who's ATP is about to expire, or needed for an instant upgrade to just cut everyone else and cost them approx $1890. And this leap frogging would push back the wait for sims even more, making the lost $$$ worse. As my man Chris Rock once said, "That aint right".
Training backlogs are a pain for everyone, but take a number and get in line. I guess those waiting for sim can get part time jobs to make up for the difference.
But I get it, the probationary pilots who this affects have no representation within the union. Or maybe it doesn't happen RIGHT NOW often enough to really be an issue. I should add that I am not at PDT, just trying to look out for my ALPA brothers and sisters.
mehh I would argue it the other way. I had 12 weeks off waiting for sims, and wish I had another 12 paid weeks of vacation. Who gets that lucky!? Going right to sim sure the money is better, but who wants to work for a living!?
02-14-2016, 05:32 AM
#7883
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
Honestly if it's the money for someone and they told me my sim was going to be in 3 months then I'd get a part time job. No reason to sit on your arse if you need the money. If you don't need the money then go travel the islands and have a few drinks avoiding the winter weather here.
ALPA??? Really?? ALPA is only as strong as it's weakest link and in the regionals that link is plastic.
02-14-2016, 05:58 AM
#7884
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: CRJ 0B
Posts: 215
It's nice how you're looking out for your Piedmont friends but you can just tell them if they don't like it then just "resign." There's a ton of regionals hiring and it's a pilots dream to have airline scrambling to hire people. I'm sure they'd have a number of job offers in a matter of days.
Honestly if it's the money for someone and they told me my sim was going to be in 3 months then I'd get a part time job. No reason to sit on your arse if you need the money. If you don't need the money then go travel the islands and have a few drinks avoiding the winter weather here.
ALPA??? Really?? ALPA is only as strong as it's weakest link and in the regionals that link is plastic.
Honestly if it's the money for someone and they told me my sim was going to be in 3 months then I'd get a part time job. No reason to sit on your arse if you need the money. If you don't need the money then go travel the islands and have a few drinks avoiding the winter weather here.
ALPA??? Really?? ALPA is only as strong as it's weakest link and in the regionals that link is plastic.
Obviously ALPA national doesn't play a strong role in the day to day issues of each chapter airline. Though given that ALPA national underwrites a lot of the CBA's at the chapter airlines, what does apply here is the similarity of specific procedures, ie grievance. Hoping that that would be an option for them.
02-14-2016, 06:03 AM
#7885
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: CRJ 0B
Posts: 215
Surviving on first year pay minimum guarantee with no per diem can be tough. Definitely don't miss those net $680 biweekly pay checks with taxes and medical deductions.
Anyway, I think I've got enough info regarding this to help out my friends and give them some good advice. Thanks guys. I'm sure the training department will eventually catch up and all will be OK
02-17-2016, 10:22 AM
#7886
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
How many guys and gals are you guys getting to class these days? Envoy has been struggling to get double digits for a while now and PSA seems to having a tough time finding people as of late too. Just curious if it's affected you guys yet?
02-17-2016, 01:21 PM
#7887
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: Professional Eugoogoolizer at the Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’t Read Good
Posts: 1,191
From what I read, they need 25 to thirty on the dash every month.. there just aren't enough pilots.. I'm waiting for the first regional to break and go to 50/hr fo and 90/hr captain.. the economy is changing.. even if the 1500 hour rule is broken.. It's not going to change anything..
02-18-2016, 08:09 AM
#7888
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 37
PDT schedules ?????
Have a buddy over at PDT and all he does is complain about schedules. He is never home, he says scheduling department doesn't care about there pilots at all and he complains and is looking else where to work. It was a place I was considering, but after hearing him talk its the last place I'll go. They do have a pretty nice FLOW. I think. What's your thoughts? How happy r the pilots nowa days at piedmont?
02-18-2016, 08:17 AM
#7889
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Position: rabble rouser
Posts: 419
Have a buddy over at PDT and all he does is complain about schedules. He is never home, he says scheduling department doesn't care about there pilots at all and he complains and is looking else where to work. It was a place I was considering, but after hearing him talk its the last place I'll go. They do have a pretty nice FLOW. I think. What's your thoughts? How happy r the pilots nowa days at piedmont?
there are a few good schedulers that do "care" at least as much as they can given the situation
but new or inexperienced ones don't, nor do the mgmt types in charge of scheduling(schedules) including the head of the company
in general i'd say the group is 'cautiously optimistic, but guarded' at least as much as cornered dogs can be(think powder keg)
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