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02-13-2016, 02:17 PM
#7871
Mx Delay
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 137
As far as I know, there isn't any contractual language about when people are called to the sims. It is definitely advisable to tell the training department if a written exam is close to expiry. That can avoid a few headaches down the road...
02-13-2016, 02:36 PM
#7874
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
What did you lose? That's like saying if you're in the same class as a new hire you should be in the sim first because your last name started with an 'A'.
Did they lose seniority??? No! There way more crap to cry about then this. hahahahahahahaha Omg!
Did they lose seniority??? No! There way more crap to cry about then this. hahahahahahahaha Omg!
02-13-2016, 05:05 PM
#7876
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: CRJ 0B
Posts: 215
Well to start, cause it's not fair that a more senior person should wait to get into sims and delay the time he/she can hit the line and start crediting more time and per diem. Those things equal more money. But I can understand how something like that could be overlooked when signing a new TA. Hard to thing about the people who aren't on property yet
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02-13-2016, 06:28 PM
#7877
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
Well to start, cause it's not fair that a more senior person should wait to get into sims and delay the time he/she can hit the line and start crediting more time and per diem. Those things equal more money. But I can understand how something like that could be overlooked when signing a new TA. Hard to thing about the people who aren't on property yet
02-13-2016, 06:40 PM
#7878
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,223
Well to start, cause it's not fair that a more senior person should wait to get into sims and delay the time he/she can hit the line and start crediting more time and per diem. Those things equal more money. But I can understand how something like that could be overlooked when signing a new TA. Hard to thing about the people who aren't on property yet
02-13-2016, 06:57 PM
#7879
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: CRJ 0B
Posts: 215
I've heard reserves can easily credit 85 hours a month, or $280 over guarantee . Let's be conservative at say $350/month for per diem. That sums to $630 a month and over three months $1890. At a typical 1000 credit hours a year, that is a 6.5% pay decrease. So the company can just allow a person who's ATP is about to expire, or needed for an instant upgrade to just cut everyone else and cost them approx $1890. And this leap frogging would push back the wait for sims even more, making the lost $$$ worse. As my man Chris Rock once said, "That aint right".
Training backlogs are a pain for everyone, but take a number and get in line. I guess those waiting for sim can get part time jobs to make up for the difference.
But I get it, the probationary pilots who this affects have no representation within the union. Or maybe it doesn't happen RIGHT NOW often enough to really be an issue. I should add that I am not at PDT, just trying to look out for my ALPA brothers and sisters.
02-14-2016, 03:49 AM
#7880
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 354
Really? Lets, do some math.
I've heard reserves can easily credit 85 hours a month, or $280 over guarantee . Let's be conservative at say $350/month for per diem. That sums to $630 a month and over three months $1890. At a typical 1000 credit hours a year, that is a 6.5% pay decrease. So the company can just allow a person who's ATP is about to expire, or needed for an instant upgrade to just cut everyone else and cost them approx $1890. And this leap frogging would push back the wait for sims even more, making the lost $$$ worse. As my man Chris Rock once said, "That aint right".
Training backlogs are a pain for everyone, but take a number and get in line. I guess those waiting for sim can get part time jobs to make up for the difference.
But I get it, the probationary pilots who this affects have no representation within the union. Or maybe it doesn't happen RIGHT NOW often enough to really be an issue. I should add that I am not at PDT, just trying to look out for my ALPA brothers and sisters.
I've heard reserves can easily credit 85 hours a month, or $280 over guarantee . Let's be conservative at say $350/month for per diem. That sums to $630 a month and over three months $1890. At a typical 1000 credit hours a year, that is a 6.5% pay decrease. So the company can just allow a person who's ATP is about to expire, or needed for an instant upgrade to just cut everyone else and cost them approx $1890. And this leap frogging would push back the wait for sims even more, making the lost $$$ worse. As my man Chris Rock once said, "That aint right".
Training backlogs are a pain for everyone, but take a number and get in line. I guess those waiting for sim can get part time jobs to make up for the difference.
But I get it, the probationary pilots who this affects have no representation within the union. Or maybe it doesn't happen RIGHT NOW often enough to really be an issue. I should add that I am not at PDT, just trying to look out for my ALPA brothers and sisters.
Lol alpa brothers and sisters...thats funny.
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