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Old 09-03-2014, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
I don't know if it's possible. I'm just stating the threat and what the current PDT pilots are worried about. But is it really that hard to replace a sub 350 pilot group? Not overnight but perhaps in a 6 month period or less.
PDT is a pimple on AAG's a$$! You see how they handled the boil on there a$$ (ENVOY).

Pop! Wipe and PDT is gone.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:38 PM
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PDT is a pimple on AAG's a$$! You see how they handled the boil on there a$$ (ENVOY).

Pop! Wipe and PDT is gone.

If PDT is as insignificant to AAG as you make it seem, why are they even bothering giving you such a "great deal" then? Honest question?
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Just to clarify, ALPA, and more specifically, the MECs made up of your own line pilots (not you specifically but in the broader sense). If someone sold anyone down the river a few years ago, it was the MECs members who did that. You can call the union bananas for all I care, but that won't change the fact that it's the MEC who are made up of line pilots that do these things. And ultimately, it's the regular line pilot who agrees to it by voting these things in.

In other words, ALPA isn't some bogie man you can always put the blame on of you don't like something. It's you and me and all the other regular line pilots who make up ALPA. So far, you've had xjt, rah, env, and silver all vote down bad deals. This wasn't ALPA did that. That was 10,000+ regular line pilots who did that!
Nevets, you are so drunk on ALPA koolaid, you can't even see the truth. Are you familiar with the depositions of the USAir MEC during previous litigation specifically dealing with the handling of Jets4Jobs? The USAir MEC testified under oath that they participated in the whipsawing of the 3 wholly owned carriers during Jets4Jobs. Silly boy, ALPA isn't the saint you make it out to be.....
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
If PDT is as insignificant to AAG as you make it seem, why are they even bothering giving you such a "great deal" then? Honest question?
Because they want to keep flying those Fuel Sippin' Dash 8's flying. The way it was going was they couldn't keep any FO's on the Property. Train them 4-7 months they'd be off to SkyWest, Compass, or even Mesa.

Why come to PDT.... 7-8 Upgrade, 25 year old Dash 8's, Horrible Commuting fleet timing out each year! Planes are leaving with no replacements. Everyone would fly a EMB for less money then come to PDT.

New Planes and Flow Thru talks have seemed to put the brakes on that and has people wanting to come to PDT again.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:49 PM
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So we had a discussion yesterday about the merger. Would that mean a new training department? Out with the old and in with the new?
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Nevets, you are so drunk on ALPA koolaid, you can't even see the truth. Are you familiar with the depositions of the USAir MEC during previous litigation specifically dealing with the handling of Jets4Jobs? The USAir MEC testified under oath that they participated in the whipsawing of the 3 wholly owned carriers during Jets4Jobs. Silly boy, ALPA isn't the saint you make it out to be.....

Yessir! That's what I was talking about.

ALPA is a big club! And us Regional guys might pay for it but we ain't in it!
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by starcheckers
So we had a discussion yesterday about the merger. Would that mean a new training department? Out with the old and in with the new?

I've talked to a few Training Dept peeps at PDT. Half of them will be flowing. So they're be new blood in there.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:27 PM
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I've talked to a few Training Dept peeps at PDT. Half of them will be flowing. So they're be new blood in there.
So will JP, MM and JK be hitting the bricks?
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Originally Posted by starcheckers
So will JP, MM and JK be hitting the bricks?

I doubt that trio will.....
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:36 PM
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I doubt that trio will.....
Oh Goody!
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