tom11011

This is why I don't understand the pilot group. Why on earth would you want to do anything that prolongs your life at a regional airline? I mean I understand why lifers will vote for it, but if there is any accuracy in this thread where it will pass with 70%, I have to question what's wrong with you guys?

billyho

He'll be at a mainline hotel and all this will be a fart in the wind.

diva

You're wrong.

diva

PDT pilots are being told they'll be at mainline in 5 years when in reality it will be closer to 8-10 years. Don't fool yourself. Piedmont pilots are smarter than that.
BilliHo is all in for this so he can get his big $ bonus $ for pushing this trough. How about you tell us who you really are??

billyho

8 to 10 years?? Really?? When they have just over 300 pilots. And the fact that the top 80 pilots are in there mid to late 50's. hahahahah Everyone that is on this list will be gone in 4-5 years. Period! Depending on equipment coming to replace the Dash's. If its the EMB 175's then many more will pass up on the flow to stay and be senior Captains and more junior guys will get to American faster. This TA is a great deal for the Senior Pilots and a great opportunity for the young junior guys/gals. Everyone actually gets a pay raise also.

Striker..... My name is Captain Ted Striker.

billyho

And just for giggles the person that had no clue about what's going on at the PDT training Dept. that said they didn't have classes going. Sept has two classes of 22 people that will be going through. Guess people are actually wanting to go there again.

Lvlng4Spd

Obviously I would say it, and we would have to agree to disagree. Wouldn't that be the professional thing to do? Unionism doesn't give you a free pass to be a thug or a bully. I'm in DCA, CRW, and PHL this weekend, in that order, if you want to debate. It appears you are MIA based, perhaps we could chat there. My wife would enjoy a FL vacation, it's starting to cool off at home.

minimwage4

Yes that's what I'm saying.

Centra

How good were the second offers at Envoy, ExpressJet, and Republic?

embraer

Well, Envoy was originally offered the current PSA disaster.

When they came back they offered, among other things:

Fleet guarantee of 170 aircraft minimum.

Enhanced flow through (no interview) to AA for everyone including future new hires.

The FIRST 60 E-175s purchased from the factory plus the next 90 options. Any E-175s acquired from any other source than the factory would not have counted toward the 60+90 numbers.

A 4/12 pay cap that was staggered over the next few years instead of taking effect right away. Anybody outside of the 4/12 would not have a snap back.

That is just for starters. There was more but they absolutely improved their offer for Envoy.

In regards to Piedmont, it's like I said before: Their biggest asset is their pilots. At the end of the day AA needs those pilots regardless of which aircraft they are flying. In other words: Piedmont is NOT going anywhere regardless of how you vote. Just as Envoy IS NOT going anywhere.

A NO vote by Piedmont may, JUST MAY put both airlines (Piedmont and Envoy) back in the driver's seat and bring enhanced contract proposals. On the other hand, a YES vote by Piedmont would just drag out these horrible PSA style contracts for the next decade.