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08-31-2014, 05:24 PM
#5521
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Why didn't you guys get the 70 CRJ900s and 150 E175s guaranteed to you by voting in your Ch 11 contract? Seems stupid to vote that in and then in return see your future go to other airlines. Probably should have had better negotiators at the table because now you are on the outside looking in wishing you could get a few of those BK scraps. All the envoy tough guy stuff is hilarious, you guys screwed up your Ch 11 CBA horribly and now you are about to get a crappy PBS system with out any growth. You're upset but you have no one to blame but all the Envoy yes voters.
08-31-2014, 05:25 PM
#5522
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Are you kidding?? Most of our senior guys are voting for this. It ensures them the ability to retire at PDT. 300 pilots and the top 100 have over 15 years and up to 35 years. Top 100 maybe 35-40 will flow depending on fleet factors.
Since you are stating what "if's" then what if we vote this down. There's a what if for you.
Since you are stating what "if's" then what if we vote this down. There's a what if for you.
08-31-2014, 05:28 PM
#5523
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Some of the guys in there early 50's and commute have showed interest in the flow. Not all because they didn't want to lose all there vacation slots that allow them to basically take 2.5 months out of the year off. However That's there deal.
But to sit here and continue to argue..... Really??? It's like Chris Rock said, "It's like playing basketball with a retarded kid and calling him for double dribble." Some things you just gotta let slide.
08-31-2014, 05:29 PM
#5524
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You guys need to understand, a big part of why Eagle voted down our TA is because historically, these flowthrough arrangements NEVER work as intended and we are always the ones left paying for it.
With radical muslims on the rise, wide open borders, and a so-called president who doesn't care about anything except his own self image, do you really want to make the same mistake the Eagle guys made back before 9-11 and assume ALL risk for a flowthrough agreement that could have FO's topped out at 4 year pay for over half a decade?
Where is the logic in that?
With radical muslims on the rise, wide open borders, and a so-called president who doesn't care about anything except his own self image, do you really want to make the same mistake the Eagle guys made back before 9-11 and assume ALL risk for a flowthrough agreement that could have FO's topped out at 4 year pay for over half a decade?
Where is the logic in that?
08-31-2014, 05:30 PM
#5525
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Position: Airbus button pusher
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I'm not kidding. I don't deal in hyperbole. You are also dealing in "if." Why don't you ask Envoy what their management promised them when they signed their last concessionary BK contract. They were promised they wouldn't come for more and that they would get 175s. How's that working out for them? What if you vote yes? They can still shut you down. They can still merge you. It's not a saving grace.
08-31-2014, 05:30 PM
#5526
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I'm not kidding. I don't deal in hyperbole. You are also dealing in "if." Why don't you ask Envoy what their management promised them when they signed their last concessionary BK contract. They were promised they wouldn't come for more and that they would get 175s. How's that working out for them? What if you vote yes? They can still shut you down. They can still merge you. It's not a saving grace.
08-31-2014, 05:31 PM
#5527
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Posts: 622
08-31-2014, 05:35 PM
#5529
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Why didn't you guys get the 70 CRJ900s and 150 E175s guaranteed to you by voting in your Ch 11 contract? Seems stupid to vote that in and then in return see your future go to other airlines. Probably should have had better negotiators at the table because now you are on the outside looking in wishing you could get a few of those BK scraps. All the envoy tough guy stuff is hilarious, you guys screwed up your Ch 11 CBA horribly and now you are about to get a crappy PBS system with out any growth. You're upset but you have no one to blame but all the Envoy yes voters.
08-31-2014, 05:44 PM
#5530
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Posts: 622
Why, RJ?
Why?
Last edited by JT8D; 08-31-2014 at 05:56 PM.
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