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08-31-2014, 09:53 AM

#5451

deltajuliet

Living the Dream

Joined APC: Sep 2013

Posts: 1,795

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujo665

RAH $116 (turned down contract offering $125)
SKW $114
CPZ $107
ENY $106 (same as CRJ700 rate from bankruptcy contract; new rates to be negotiated in 2016 for E175)
MESA $102 (CRJ900 rate is all I could find quickly)

Cujo, just for clarification, what exactly do those numbers represent?

08-31-2014, 10:04 AM

#5452

meeko031

alchemist

Joined APC: Apr 2007

Posts: 1,089

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT8D

I hope this is sarcasm...

...of course it is!!! unfortunately, the pilots at PDT see it this way, along with a magical flow that will occur less than the 12/4

08-31-2014, 10:08 AM

#5453

tom11011

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Joined APC: Feb 2013

Posts: 3,011

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyho

Piedmont Pilots voting this TA in? So easy a Caveman can do it.

Are you a pilot for PDT?

08-31-2014, 10:11 AM

#5454

Cujo665

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Joined APC: Feb 2014

Position: Semi-Retired...

Posts: 3,229

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltajuliet

Cujo, just for clarification, what exactly do those numbers represent?

according to APC, it's the E175 top step pay scales. Except for MESA, APC only showed the CR9 pay.

08-31-2014, 10:24 AM

#5455

deltajuliet

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Posts: 1,795

Ah, got it, thanks.

08-31-2014, 11:49 AM

#5456

BSOuthisplace

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Joined APC: Sep 2009

Position: N/A

Posts: 637

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevets

I probably misread it but the document I saw had two tables, one with it and one without it. This was aside from the company matching funds.

But those biulet points didn't even mention the contribution or match anyway. Anything else missing?

Our retirement is split between pilots hired before 2002 that are on the defined benefit plan (pension) and those hired after 2002 that cannot participate in the plan. Those pilots hired after 2002 get a "free" 1% 401k contribution from the company whether they contribute to their 401k or not. The thing that would change with this LOA and the introduction of jet aircraft is a cap at 9+ years, and a freeze at current rates for anyone above that level.

08-31-2014, 11:50 AM

#5457

Paid2fly

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Joined APC: May 2009

Posts: 2,035

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace

And yea all we have to do is demand things and we'll get em right? Why didn't we think of this earlier?

Or everyone can just rollover and take managements unnecessary concessionary offer and keep moving this "profession" backwards...

08-31-2014, 11:56 AM

#5458

BSOuthisplace

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Joined APC: Sep 2009

Position: N/A

Posts: 637

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevets

What I'm talking about is the three MECs getting together with management and coming up with One List One Flow. I don't know how any pilot could be against that?

I'm all for it. How do you suggest going about this when PSA has already caved and Envoy leadership is prepared to accept 12/4 with 3 year pay freezes.

08-31-2014, 12:18 PM

#5459

Lvlng4Spd

Happy at PDT

Joined APC: Jan 2014

Position: EMB-145 CA

Posts: 983

Here's your problem: Most PDT pilots don't know or follow/care/believe these forums. Most have little idea how others vote or they don't care. What they do know, all too well, is their history of been left out and neglected for a long time. "Oh it's just PDT and and their dying planes and that @$!# training department, I would never go there". Now you all come to us and want us to join you in your crusade? We will vote what we feel is best. Early estimates have it at least 65-75 percent in favor, possibly as high as 80 percent. What if it's 51/50?

08-31-2014, 12:32 PM

#5460

Cujo665

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Position: Semi-Retired...

Posts: 3,229

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace

I'm all for it. How do you suggest going about this when PSA has already caved and Envoy leadership is prepared to accept 12/4 with 3 year pay freezes.

None of that was in the offer we presented.

12/4 had snap backs if less than 360 flowed to AA each year, and new hires could elect 18-8 with no flow ever, or 12-4 with flow. A $10,000 signing bonus, and 1.5% raises each year. The company rejected our offer.

Whomever told you otherwise, lied.