PDT News and Rumors
08-22-2014, 09:50 AM
#5061
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 86
Does anyone at PDT know when they should expect info on their TA? Many people are anxious to see what is in it. If a TA was reached a few days ago, presumably there will be information sent to the pilots about what is in it in the near future.
08-22-2014, 10:26 AM
#5062
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,648
News flash man...
Democracy, the No won, you lost. How about you start looking for another job?
It is what it is...you want to bend over? go to PSA or MESA, you will be Ca there in 2 years.
The MEC didn't sell the last TA, it's not their purpose. They voted no, the company pushed for pilot ratification and we voted No. The MEC represented the pilots voice.
Las MEC sell the Bk TA as the best BK TA ever, we bent over and they came back once the merger was done. Why? Because we are a weak pilot group. They will get what they want one way or the other. It got them by surprise that the TA didn't passed.
Take it easy, take a deep breath as go to work happy.
Democracy, the No won, you lost. How about you start looking for another job?
It is what it is...you want to bend over? go to PSA or MESA, you will be Ca there in 2 years.
The MEC didn't sell the last TA, it's not their purpose. They voted no, the company pushed for pilot ratification and we voted No. The MEC represented the pilots voice.
Las MEC sell the Bk TA as the best BK TA ever, we bent over and they came back once the merger was done. Why? Because we are a weak pilot group. They will get what they want one way or the other. It got them by surprise that the TA didn't passed.
Take it easy, take a deep breath as go to work happy.
I'll quit posting here though, the arguments are a distraction.
08-22-2014, 10:44 AM
#5063
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 468
You're right, I did lose, we all lost. I really want to see people admit that. Luckily I'll be out of the industry in ~2 months, my nightmare is about over. I only came here to encourage the PDT guys to make the right decision, not let rhetoric and stupidity ruin their careers as it did those of us at Envoy.
I'll quit posting here though, the arguments are a distraction.
I'll quit posting here though, the arguments are a distraction.
08-22-2014, 11:59 AM
#5066
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 468
08-22-2014, 12:22 PM
#5067
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
They are meeting today.... Probably to sign and hammer out a few other details. I for one can tell you it's not going to be great. While it might be better then PSA's that's really not saying too much.
I expect of course the Full Flow..... Healthcare cost still very good. They won't mess with our contract and vacation bidding (which is awesome). However I do see the 12/4 years coming to us also. Parker doesn't want anyone at PDT /PSA/Envoy for longer then 5-7 years. Upgrade and move on to American. I see the payrates being close to what PSA has.
The only problem I will have is a 10 year contract... That alone might be a NO vote for me. Especially how fast the Regional world is going to change.
We shall see!
08-22-2014, 12:28 PM
#5068
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 622
They are meeting today.... Probably to sign and hammer out a few other details. I for one can tell you it's not going to be great. While it might be better then PSA's that's really not saying too much.
I expect of course the Full Flow..... Healthcare cost still very good. They won't mess with our contract and vacation bidding (which is awesome). However I do see the 12/4 years coming to us also. Parker doesn't want anyone at PDT /PSA/Envoy for longer then 5-7 years. Upgrade and move on to American. I see the payrates being close to what PSA has.
The only problem I will have is a 10 year contract... That alone might be a NO vote for me. Especially how fast the Regional world is going to change.
We shall see!
I expect of course the Full Flow..... Healthcare cost still very good. They won't mess with our contract and vacation bidding (which is awesome). However I do see the 12/4 years coming to us also. Parker doesn't want anyone at PDT /PSA/Envoy for longer then 5-7 years. Upgrade and move on to American. I see the payrates being close to what PSA has.
The only problem I will have is a 10 year contract... That alone might be a NO vote for me. Especially how fast the Regional world is going to change.
We shall see!
08-22-2014, 12:35 PM
#5069
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
Yep! I can bet it's going to be a real shiny turd. The funny part is when our MEC tries to sell it to us. I remember the PSA folks selling there's to their pilots. It was sad to watch. Guess we'll get that same sad treatment.
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