PDT News and Rumors
04-19-2014, 04:12 AM
#4713
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The FFD meeting did not release the letter until the PDT MEC Chairman refused to sign it. That's what my sources say; he refused to sign. That's when it was sent out as is.
I'm also hearing that AAG may be in discussions with them soon, if they aren't already to send some 175's there.
AAG wants desperately to send planes elsewhere in an effort to say "we told you so" to the envoy pilots.
They may have a deal for 10 with an outside non AAG vendor in the works, which buys them time to get a deal with PDT and for PDT to spin up a training program. PDT has estimated 18 months for both a training and Maint program.
Eventually PDT will be folded into envoy. The CRJ's that went to PSA were never destined for envoy. The envoy pilots and their MEC have voted no THREE (3) times already against concessions. Each time under threat of losing flying and potentially their jobs. The rest of the FFD pilots need to follow the lead of envoy, XJT and RAH.
Potentially getting new planes (from envoy) is why PDT did not sign.
You PDT pilots need to get all over your MEC.
I'm also hearing that AAG may be in discussions with them soon, if they aren't already to send some 175's there.
AAG wants desperately to send planes elsewhere in an effort to say "we told you so" to the envoy pilots.
They may have a deal for 10 with an outside non AAG vendor in the works, which buys them time to get a deal with PDT and for PDT to spin up a training program. PDT has estimated 18 months for both a training and Maint program.
Eventually PDT will be folded into envoy. The CRJ's that went to PSA were never destined for envoy. The envoy pilots and their MEC have voted no THREE (3) times already against concessions. Each time under threat of losing flying and potentially their jobs. The rest of the FFD pilots need to follow the lead of envoy, XJT and RAH.
Potentially getting new planes (from envoy) is why PDT did not sign.
You PDT pilots need to get all over your MEC.
Last edited by Mason32; 04-19-2014 at 04:40 AM.
04-19-2014, 05:18 AM
#4714
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 579
The FFD meeting did not release the letter until the PDT MEC Chairman refused to sign it. That's what my sources say; he refused to sign. That's when it was sent out as is.
I'm also hearing that AAG may be in discussions with them soon, if they aren't already to send some 175's there.
AAG wants desperately to send planes elsewhere in an effort to say "we told you so" to the envoy pilots.
They may have a deal for 10 with an outside non AAG vendor in the works, which buys them time to get a deal with PDT and for PDT to spin up a training program. PDT has estimated 18 months for both a training and Maint program.
Eventually PDT will be folded into envoy. The CRJ's that went to PSA were never destined for envoy. The envoy pilots and their MEC have voted no THREE (3) times already against concessions. Each time under threat of losing flying and potentially their jobs. The rest of the FFD pilots need to follow the lead of envoy, XJT and RAH.
Potentially getting new planes (from envoy) is why PDT did not sign.
You PDT pilots need to get all over your MEC.
I'm also hearing that AAG may be in discussions with them soon, if they aren't already to send some 175's there.
AAG wants desperately to send planes elsewhere in an effort to say "we told you so" to the envoy pilots.
They may have a deal for 10 with an outside non AAG vendor in the works, which buys them time to get a deal with PDT and for PDT to spin up a training program. PDT has estimated 18 months for both a training and Maint program.
Eventually PDT will be folded into envoy. The CRJ's that went to PSA were never destined for envoy. The envoy pilots and their MEC have voted no THREE (3) times already against concessions. Each time under threat of losing flying and potentially their jobs. The rest of the FFD pilots need to follow the lead of envoy, XJT and RAH.
Potentially getting new planes (from envoy) is why PDT did not sign.
You PDT pilots need to get all over your MEC.
04-19-2014, 08:21 AM
#4716
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 148
Pdt would definitely accept concessions for new planes for other reasons than psa. Very senior pilot group need 5 or 10 more years to retire, willing to take concessions so their not out on the street. Unlike psa pdt is in dire circumstances to survive, planes will cycle out in a few years and pdt is small enough to shut down over a no vote and noone would even notice. Psa was chasing shiny jets and upgrades but pdt needs a life raft to cling on to. However I doubt they'll ever see an offer.
04-19-2014, 10:15 AM
#4717
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PDT can get raises all around, and still be cheaper than any other jet operator. It will be vital for them to not accept less than they're worth. I'd suggest that whomever has the best contract, (probably Air Wiskey), should be the starting point for discussions and improvements. It's obvious they can't place these things as easily as they claimed. You guys are no longer replaceable at will. Stand together, and you will win the day.
04-19-2014, 10:53 AM
#4718
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I don't see PDT voting down a contract that includes raises (even if lower than other jet operators) a flow similar to what was offered to Eagle (which I assume will be included) and new aircraft to refleet them. I could be wrong but it seems like quite a stretch for them to turn something like that down.
04-19-2014, 10:54 AM
#4719
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