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#3591
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 8
Our Negotiating Committee just posted management's final offer. . . I've never actually physically been "slapped in the face," but I'm pretty sure this is what it feels like. Oh well, its not like I didn't see it coming.
Anyway, can some answer for certainty where we are sitting right now? Have we been released into self help or not?
Anyway, can some answer for certainty where we are sitting right now? Have we been released into self help or not?
#3593
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: DHC-8 100/300
Posts: 843
"Below are the long awaited details from Management’s last offer to the pilots of
Piedmont Airlines. While the Association and Management have reached tentative
agreements on a number of sections, many of you will be disappointed to see how little
progress has been made in an attempt to reach a mutually acceptable deal. The
upcoming weeks will be critical for the pilots at Piedmont Airlines. Your Negotiating
Committee has worked tirelessly for three years to reach a fair deal for both the pilots of
Piedmont Airlines and our Management – and we will continue to do so. It is now up
to your MEC as to how to proceed. Your MEC is in direct coordination with your
Negotiating Committee, SPC, ALPA National SPC, and Communications. Expect to
receive large amounts of information from these groups in the upcoming days:"
Piedmont Airlines. While the Association and Management have reached tentative
agreements on a number of sections, many of you will be disappointed to see how little
progress has been made in an attempt to reach a mutually acceptable deal. The
upcoming weeks will be critical for the pilots at Piedmont Airlines. Your Negotiating
Committee has worked tirelessly for three years to reach a fair deal for both the pilots of
Piedmont Airlines and our Management – and we will continue to do so. It is now up
to your MEC as to how to proceed. Your MEC is in direct coordination with your
Negotiating Committee, SPC, ALPA National SPC, and Communications. Expect to
receive large amounts of information from these groups in the upcoming days:"
#3594
Management rejects any improvement to Section 1 (Recognition and Job
Security), specifically the Association’s proposal for a “Parent Letter” to be
signed by US Airways. The Parent Letter would bind US Airways to guarantee
the terms and conditions of Section 1 of our contract. This is why we were
unable to secure Small Jets on the property, since US Airways was not bound by
our Agreement.
In addition to the above, management refuses to extend the no furlough clause to
cover any Piedmont pilot hired after May 16, 2000 in the event of a merger with a
non‐wholly owned.
Compensation: Management is offering a signing bonus of 3% of one year’s
earnings. This is to compensate you for the time since your last raise on May 16,
2009. In addition, it would only be paid to pilots hired before January 1, 1012.
Pay Rates: Management is offering a 2% Date of Signing (DOS) pay rate increase.
They also propose to replace the annual raises with a 1.5% “Lump Sum
Payment” at 24, 36, and 48 months after the DOS. Note: this means that after the
initial 2% DOS pay rate increase, the pay scales would never change for the
duration of the Agreement.
Per Diem to be paid at $1.65/hr with .05 increases every 18 months, starting 1
month after DOS.
Deadhead pay to be increased to 75%. However, this increase would not take
place until January 1, 2014.
Health Insurance: While we recognize that health care costs have increased over
the years, and we have agreed to a framework to address those increases,
Management refuses to agree to state what the actual premiums will be. They
have also proposed to limit the indemnity plan (the more expensive plan) to
current participants, therefore shutting it off to any new participants.
Short Term/Long Term Disability: Currently, a pilot on disability leave pays the
same premiums for health insurance as when he was an active employee for
however long he is on leave. Management wants to limit that to 24 months per
leave and no more than 48 months total. After reaching those limits, the pilot
would have to pay the full cost of the insurance to the company (called COBRA)
or find new insurance. Any pilots currently on leave will be grandfathered in,
but these new limits would take effect upon their return to active service. In
addition, Management wants to end pilot participation on the Short Term
Eligibility Review Panel. Therefore, eligibility for Short Term Disability would
be determined solely by the “Plan Administrator” (i.e. the insurance company).
Management proposes that the duration of the new Agreement shall be 4.5 years.
Where does that leave us? I'm guessing between the time frames stipulated by management, (lump some payouts @1.5% (lol) at 24,36,48 months) and 75% (lol) DH pay that doesn't start until Jan 1, 2014, I'd say we're closing up shop. If not soon, I'm guessing by oh . . . lets say . . . Jan-Jul, 2014.
Fine with me, even more the reason to give a big Foxtrot Uniform to S.F. and walk out. At least we'll have our dignity. Well, most of us. I'm sure there are some super seniors that will want to protect their pensions and "retirement." Unfortunately for them, the vast majority of pilots employed here now, have no pensions, or have no plans whatsoever staying here so they can collect one.
Big Brother, if you're reading this, you're not going to pull your Puppeteer strings and get what you want this time. You've ****ed too many employees off. The carrot that's been dangling in front of us for over a decade has become rotten.
Security), specifically the Association’s proposal for a “Parent Letter” to be
signed by US Airways. The Parent Letter would bind US Airways to guarantee
the terms and conditions of Section 1 of our contract. This is why we were
unable to secure Small Jets on the property, since US Airways was not bound by
our Agreement.
In addition to the above, management refuses to extend the no furlough clause to
cover any Piedmont pilot hired after May 16, 2000 in the event of a merger with a
non‐wholly owned.
Compensation: Management is offering a signing bonus of 3% of one year’s
earnings. This is to compensate you for the time since your last raise on May 16,
2009. In addition, it would only be paid to pilots hired before January 1, 1012.
Pay Rates: Management is offering a 2% Date of Signing (DOS) pay rate increase.
They also propose to replace the annual raises with a 1.5% “Lump Sum
Payment” at 24, 36, and 48 months after the DOS. Note: this means that after the
initial 2% DOS pay rate increase, the pay scales would never change for the
duration of the Agreement.
Per Diem to be paid at $1.65/hr with .05 increases every 18 months, starting 1
month after DOS.
Deadhead pay to be increased to 75%. However, this increase would not take
place until January 1, 2014.
Health Insurance: While we recognize that health care costs have increased over
the years, and we have agreed to a framework to address those increases,
Management refuses to agree to state what the actual premiums will be. They
have also proposed to limit the indemnity plan (the more expensive plan) to
current participants, therefore shutting it off to any new participants.
Short Term/Long Term Disability: Currently, a pilot on disability leave pays the
same premiums for health insurance as when he was an active employee for
however long he is on leave. Management wants to limit that to 24 months per
leave and no more than 48 months total. After reaching those limits, the pilot
would have to pay the full cost of the insurance to the company (called COBRA)
or find new insurance. Any pilots currently on leave will be grandfathered in,
but these new limits would take effect upon their return to active service. In
addition, Management wants to end pilot participation on the Short Term
Eligibility Review Panel. Therefore, eligibility for Short Term Disability would
be determined solely by the “Plan Administrator” (i.e. the insurance company).
Management proposes that the duration of the new Agreement shall be 4.5 years.
Fine with me, even more the reason to give a big Foxtrot Uniform to S.F. and walk out. At least we'll have our dignity. Well, most of us. I'm sure there are some super seniors that will want to protect their pensions and "retirement." Unfortunately for them, the vast majority of pilots employed here now, have no pensions, or have no plans whatsoever staying here so they can collect one.
Big Brother, if you're reading this, you're not going to pull your Puppeteer strings and get what you want this time. You've ****ed too many employees off. The carrot that's been dangling in front of us for over a decade has become rotten.
#3597
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Dash 8
Posts: 30
Here's some good news for those of you with expired writtens. I thought I'd share the link here since I'm sure it'll be months before our fine management team discovers this and sends out an FIL littered with spelling errors. (if they remember to attach the FIL to the email)
Regulations.gov
You'll have to open the attached PDF.
Regulations.gov
You'll have to open the attached PDF.
#3599
Try not to clutch to any ideas of allegiance to a brand that has none to you. I enjoyed working there because of the people, but at the end of the day we have bills to pay and retirements to achieve. If after all your time at PDT you still have the spirit of aviation in your blood try not to let any cliche ideas about 'lateral moves' prevent you from bettering yourselves professionally.
#3600
Sorry to hear it fellas.
Try not to clutch to any ideas of allegiance to a brand that has none to you. I enjoyed working there because of the people, but at the end of the day we have bills to pay and retirements to achieve. If after all your time at PDT you still have the spirit of aviation in your blood try not to let any cliche ideas about 'lateral moves' prevent you from bettering yourselves professionally.
Try not to clutch to any ideas of allegiance to a brand that has none to you. I enjoyed working there because of the people, but at the end of the day we have bills to pay and retirements to achieve. If after all your time at PDT you still have the spirit of aviation in your blood try not to let any cliche ideas about 'lateral moves' prevent you from bettering yourselves professionally.
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