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Old 10-20-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
Cause piedmont is doing the schedules for PSA. And the title of this thread is PDT News and Rumors. So that is how we are talking about PSA. Don't get yourself so worked up about it.
If this will make you feel better i overheard while i was at our head office that mainline has put forward a proposal to merge Piedmont and PSA. Soon you too can be a "Jet Jock".
The PSA OCC is going to be getting renovated over the next few days. When it comes back online, WHERE do you think it will be? ("Look! The new OCC, in a new office, that is in a new building, that is in a new city, that is in a new state....")

Joking, of course, but...
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stoki

As for PDT does anybody know anyone who went and took the VOL? I don't.
One FO in EWN took it cause somehow magically I got a line!? Doesn't really matter cause I'll be back on reserve again in December. Not getting my hopes up to keep a line . Figure it's better to stay in reserve mindset then get my hopes up.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by goodyear859
I read so much about these leases. I thought PDT owns all the 100s and leases the 300s...I would think the 300's would be more of a money maker since more seats. Unless money was really that tight, why would they get rid of them?
While I'm not positive on the exact numbers, I do know that PDT owns roughly half of the 100's, and leases all of the 300's. From what they're saying, lease prices have gone up considerably -- even on the old Dash 100's -- since this whole fuel crisis reared it's head. Back in '06 we lost all of our DHC-200's because the lease costs jumped to 4x that of the DHC-100's, and even though the -200 was a sweet aircraft that was impossible to weight-restrict, they couldn't justify keeping them when the -100's held the same number of seats. I haven't heard anything model-specific as far as the lease renewals go, only that there's some negotiating to be done. Best guess: same old, same old. Nothing lost, nothing gained...at least for the near future.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:50 AM
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Okay now here's an interesting one...

Been told that mainline has come to both PDT and PSA with a flight ops merger/integration package that will consolidate the the wholly owned carriers into mainline "express". Pilots and f/a's will have mainline seniority numbers and after a fence period will be able to bid to mainline equipment the reverse being true for current mainline pilots. And apparently even though this agreement would allow furloughed mainline pilots to come back and take seats on the CRJ and the Dash no additional current PDT or PSA pilots would be on the street.

A whopper huh? Normally I would not lend to much credibility over something like this but the level of detail that was explained to me seems to give it some possibility. That with first hand conversations I have had personally with the head of the mainline committee on PSA's and PDT's flow-through which suggested this was coming.

In the current economic environment it also makes a great deal of sense for Airways to absorb PDT and PSA. The cost savings in overhead reduction alone will even further enhance USA's cash position.

Now, do I buy all this.....personally, I don't believe any rumor until it has actually happened. But this one is at the least intriguing to discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by DashGirl
Okay now here's an interesting one...

Been told that mainline has come to both PDT and PSA with a flight ops merger/integration package that will consolidate the the wholly owned carriers into mainline "express". Pilots and f/a's will have mainline seniority numbers and after a fence period will be able to bid to mainline equipment the reverse being true for current mainline pilots. And apparently even though this agreement would allow furloughed mainline pilots to come back and take seats on the CRJ and the Dash no additional current PDT or PSA pilots would be on the street.

A whopper huh? Normally I would not lend to much credibility over something like this but the level of detail that was explained to me seems to give it some possibility. That with first hand conversations I have had personally with the head of the mainline committee on PSA's and PDT's flow-through which suggested this was coming.

In the current economic environment it also makes a great deal of sense for Airways to absorb PDT and PSA. The cost savings in overhead reduction alone will even further enhance USA's cash position.

Now, do I buy all this.....personally, I don't believe any rumor until it has actually happened. But this one is at the least intriguing to discuss.
Somehow hard to believe that furloughed mainline pilots would be able to take seats on the Dash-CRJ without our people being furloughed, as we are already apparently a little overstaffed.

So does that mean we would also getting mainline type pay? (equivalent to the aircraft of course) Or does that mean that mainline would be getting regional pay.... probably far more likely

Interesting none-the less. Havent heard anything on this. Too crazy of news to be true, imo. Don't see it happening personally.
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DashGirl
Okay now here's an interesting one...

Been told that mainline has come to both PDT and PSA with a flight ops merger/integration package that will consolidate the the wholly owned carriers into mainline "express". Pilots and f/a's will have mainline seniority numbers and after a fence period will be able to bid to mainline equipment the reverse being true for current mainline pilots. And apparently even though this agreement would allow furloughed mainline pilots to come back and take seats on the CRJ and the Dash no additional current PDT or PSA pilots would be on the street.

A whopper huh? Normally I would not lend to much credibility over something like this but the level of detail that was explained to me seems to give it some possibility. That with first hand conversations I have had personally with the head of the mainline committee on PSA's and PDT's flow-through which suggested this was coming.

In the current economic environment it also makes a great deal of sense for Airways to absorb PDT and PSA. The cost savings in overhead reduction alone will even further enhance USA's cash position.

Now, do I buy all this.....personally, I don't believe any rumor until it has actually happened. But this one is at the least intriguing to discuss.
Yeah that would be very interesting indeed. I guess we'll see what happens. By the way, the company's officially offering December VLA's. Hooray... Well at least we aren't furloughing... Oops, did I say that out loud? I'm knocking on wood as I type this...
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:07 PM
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Yeah that would be very interesting indeed. I guess we'll see what happens. By the way, the company's officially offering December VLA's. Hooray... Well at least we aren't furloughing... Oops, did I say that out loud? I'm knocking on wood as I type this...
Knock harder lol.

2009 may be interesting with so many things happening, whether its leases on the new A/C, renewal of the contract with MESA etc. etc.

I heard a rumor on the other forum a Colgan guy said that a U.S Airways rep. came to Colgan for estimates on Q400 flying. Not sure when or w/e, but wouldnt that be a piser?
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Knock harder lol.

2009 may be interesting with so many things happening, whether its leases on the new A/C, renewal of the contract with MESA etc. etc.

I heard a rumor on the other forum a Colgan guy said that a U.S Airways rep. came to Colgan for estimates on Q400 flying. Not sure when or w/e, but wouldnt that be a piser?
I seriously doubt there is any truth to that one. Doug Parker has been very vocal about his desire to reduce Airways dependency on contract carriers, not increase it. But..I suppose stranger things have happened...I can also suppose if that went down we'd probably take a strike footing at PDT. I really think that would be about the straw that broke the camels back.
 
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Originally Posted by stoki
Knock harder lol.
I heard a rumor on the other forum a Colgan guy said that a U.S Airways rep. came to Colgan for estimates on Q400 flying. Not sure when or w/e, but wouldnt that be a piser?

Wouldn't matter anyways. Airways pilots gave up scope for up to 8X seats on turbojet aircraft. Nobody ever bothered years ago to get scope for props. Scope limits Airways from having ANY operator flying turboprops over 68 seats. So Colgan couldn't do it even if they wanted to.

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Old 10-25-2008, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stoki
Knock harder lol.

2009 may be interesting with so many things happening, whether its leases on the new A/C, renewal of the contract with MESA etc. etc.

I heard a rumor on the other forum a Colgan guy said that a U.S Airways rep. came to Colgan for estimates on Q400 flying. Not sure when or w/e, but wouldnt that be a piser?
Just a guess, but isn't bombardier backlogged on Q400 orders, and Colgan/PNCL I think still has options, which would allow them to recieve a/c sooner than if PDT put an order in tomorrow. And I'm guessing their Q rates are cheaper than PDT Large TP rates.
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