PDT News and Rumors
06-29-2010, 03:32 PM
#1881
Kerbal Rocket Surgeon
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DTW 717A
Posts: 1,099
They need over a million dollars of work each to meet PDT Op Specs. MAG did a job on them since PDT had them last including ripping out the APUs. The leasing company wants to sell them as is not lease them out after sinking 16 mil into the a/c to make them acceptable to PDT. US Airways will not pay for the refurb. Short of some other airframes magically appearing on the market cheap enough for Tempe to drop dime on, PHX ain't gonna happen..
We can't fly without APUs? Dont have opspecs in front of me. Make no mistake, if we get those airplanes it would be in the cheapest legal operating condition.
I'm not trying to give anyone false hope, I just see a hole in Airways' coverage out West that needs to be filled and no other company immediately available to fill it.
Also I dont think we'd get the full mesa fleet, just the 6 or so required to cover the Airways Dash flying that Mesa is dropping.
You don't have to agree with me =)
As I said, I still think this place is shot. I actually just got a call for an interview next week so I might be on my way out too.
06-29-2010, 03:32 PM
#1882
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 126
Wow Dashgirl I think It is time for you to move up and find that "DREAM AND PERFECT" job that to my guess it will be hard for you to find with your attitude for life.
Maybe If you decide to leave in the short future people like skyfreq21 can be recalled faster before PDT closes the doors.
Like the post of LostInPA. It is the time for everyone to work together for the new contract. I was talking today with the Chairman for the Negotiation Comm. and seems he is doing and excellent job with a company that is not willing to talk.
But the biggest problem on the table is the same pilot group not working together, been selfish and not adhering to the contract.
Examples are people flying over duty times, not setting the parking brake when don't given a break or crew meals so then won't be delay 5 minutes going home, flying broken (including hot) airplanes, picking every single open time they can and making "sweet" deals with crew scheduling.
Another example, Senior Capt was requesting to the committee more vacation time on the new contract. Month after that; he sold all the vacation for that month back to the company. When the committee ask company for more vacation for the pilot group guess what was the answer ....... "Pilots don't need more vacation time since they are selling it back".
Please respect and adhere to you contract.
I had also the chance to work with Spirit pilot group on their strike and the only reason they got what they wanted was because all of them stood together. Even their CP and DO didn't cross the line.
Maybe If you decide to leave in the short future people like skyfreq21 can be recalled faster before PDT closes the doors.
Like the post of LostInPA. It is the time for everyone to work together for the new contract. I was talking today with the Chairman for the Negotiation Comm. and seems he is doing and excellent job with a company that is not willing to talk.
But the biggest problem on the table is the same pilot group not working together, been selfish and not adhering to the contract.
Examples are people flying over duty times, not setting the parking brake when don't given a break or crew meals so then won't be delay 5 minutes going home, flying broken (including hot) airplanes, picking every single open time they can and making "sweet" deals with crew scheduling.
Another example, Senior Capt was requesting to the committee more vacation time on the new contract. Month after that; he sold all the vacation for that month back to the company. When the committee ask company for more vacation for the pilot group guess what was the answer ....... "Pilots don't need more vacation time since they are selling it back".
Please respect and adhere to you contract.
I had also the chance to work with Spirit pilot group on their strike and the only reason they got what they wanted was because all of them stood together. Even their CP and DO didn't cross the line.
06-29-2010, 03:35 PM
#1883
Guest
Posts: n/a
$1m/ea is news to me.
We can't fly without APUs? Dont have opspecs in front of me.
I'm not trying to give anyone false hope, I just see a hole in Airways' coverage out West that needs to be filled and no other company immediately available to fill it.
Also I dont think we'd get the full mesa fleet, just the 6 or so required to cover the Airways Dash flying that Mesa is dropping.
You don't have to agree with me =)
As I said, I still think this place is shot. I actually just got a call for an interview next week so I might be on my way out too.
We can't fly without APUs? Dont have opspecs in front of me.
I'm not trying to give anyone false hope, I just see a hole in Airways' coverage out West that needs to be filled and no other company immediately available to fill it.
Also I dont think we'd get the full mesa fleet, just the 6 or so required to cover the Airways Dash flying that Mesa is dropping.
You don't have to agree with me =)
As I said, I still think this place is shot. I actually just got a call for an interview next week so I might be on my way out too.
Wow Dashgirl I think It is time for you to move up and find that "DREAM AND PERFECT" job that to my guess it will be hard for you to find with your attitude for life.
Maybe If you decide to leave in the short future people like skyfreq21 can be recalled faster before PDT closes the doors.
Like the post of LostInPA. It is the time for everyone to work together for the new contract. I was talking today with the Chairman for the Negotiation Comm. and seems he is doing and excellent job with a company that is not willing to talk.
But the biggest problem on the table is the same pilot group not working together, been selfish and not adhering to the contract.
Examples are people flying over duty times, not setting the parking brake when don't given a break or crew meals so then won't be delay 5 minutes going home, flying broken (including hot) airplanes, picking every single open time they can and making "sweet" deals with crew scheduling.
Another example, Senior Capt was requesting to the committee more vacation time on the new contract. Month after that; he sold all the vacation for that month back to the company. When the committee ask company for more vacation for the pilot group guess what was the answer ....... "Pilots don't need more vacation time since they are selling it back".
Please respect and adhere to you contract.
I had also the chance to work with Spirit pilot group on their strike and the only reason they got what they wanted was because all of them stood together. Even their CP and DO didn't cross the line.
Maybe If you decide to leave in the short future people like skyfreq21 can be recalled faster before PDT closes the doors.
Like the post of LostInPA. It is the time for everyone to work together for the new contract. I was talking today with the Chairman for the Negotiation Comm. and seems he is doing and excellent job with a company that is not willing to talk.
But the biggest problem on the table is the same pilot group not working together, been selfish and not adhering to the contract.
Examples are people flying over duty times, not setting the parking brake when don't given a break or crew meals so then won't be delay 5 minutes going home, flying broken (including hot) airplanes, picking every single open time they can and making "sweet" deals with crew scheduling.
Another example, Senior Capt was requesting to the committee more vacation time on the new contract. Month after that; he sold all the vacation for that month back to the company. When the committee ask company for more vacation for the pilot group guess what was the answer ....... "Pilots don't need more vacation time since they are selling it back".
Please respect and adhere to you contract.
I had also the chance to work with Spirit pilot group on their strike and the only reason they got what they wanted was because all of them stood together. Even their CP and DO didn't cross the line.
Wow...just wow. And you honestly don't understand why I'm so bitter? Really? You know nothing about me, so clam it with your commentary on my life outlook.
06-29-2010, 08:37 PM
#1884
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Upright
Posts: 605
Aren't you the same person who was telling us all that USAPA was going to cave on scope and that all the Mesa 900s were owned by USAir?
I've read many threads from folks who profess to tell the future, but yours take the cake.
I've read many threads from folks who profess to tell the future, but yours take the cake.
06-30-2010, 07:24 AM
#1885
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: Straight outta LoCash
Posts: 176
I think this will probably happen, too. In fact, I think that by this time next year most furloughed pilots will be back at work, including CMR and XJT.
With any luck (knock on wood), something will pop before that phone call from SBY comes...
06-30-2010, 07:25 AM
#1886
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: Straight outta LoCash
Posts: 176
I know personally a lot of the bottom furloughs have moved on. I'm in a position right now where I would love to come back this summer for a year or two while I wait for a couple of jobs to pan out (atc, fss, etc). It would be nice to build some more time as well, should that "pilot shortage" ever come. The truth is PDT isn't closing or going anywhere anytime within the next year or two and if enough people bail for better things the furloughs may be getting a call in the near future. My guess is only 15-20 will be left by the time that call comes.
BSO, what class were you in?
06-30-2010, 08:55 PM
#1889
Don't need that HUD!
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: B777/B787 - Flight Test
Posts: 318
And relying on information from JP about what kind of work would be necessary to get the -200s "refurbed" in order to be flown by PDT? The same JP that was supposedly offering deals for identifying the snitches that went to the Buffalo press about stick pusher training?
To start a thread about FOs without an ATP or PIC time being stuck and never being able to upgrade before PDT shuts the doors? Try asking some of the PDT pilots with a DOH in the early 1990s about their upgrade opportunities! Not only did it take 3000+ hours just to get hired, but it was 7+ years of being an FO before a chance to upgrade came along. If you don't like the current situation, and truly believe that the future for PDT is limited, then please do us a favor and get out! I can't believe the sense of entitlement that is shown in the postings, as if no one has ever had it so bad.
Someone so bitter, so negative, so full of complaints... Paging Dr. Phil!
07-03-2010, 06:55 AM
#1890
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: N/A
Posts: 637
So I'm wondering, as the furloughs approach their 1 year anniversary, and with all the talk of people looking for and in many cases finding new flying gigs, do you think the company will recall before we hit the one year mark? PDT has had a poor history in preparing for pilot shortages but I'm hoping they have learned their lesson. Here's to hoping I'll be back in the cockpit by September.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
