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Old 03-30-2010, 06:44 AM
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When an airline puts out an RFP its to price the market for a chunk of flying. So a RFP on mesa's 900 flying means that airways is requesting bids on that flying. It does not mean that Airways intends to get rid of Mesa.
Is Mesa's contract is up soon? While it doesn't necessarily mean they intend to cut ties with Mesa, companies - in any industry - typically don't put out RFPs unless there is work they need done, or will need done in some specific timeframe. Although, if Mesa is the cheapest, and still around, Airways will likely continue to use them.

Plus, how would that help PDT anyway? It's not like we'd do CLT-SAT anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by RedOverWhite
Is Mesa's contract is up soon? While it doesn't necessarily mean they intend to cut ties with Mesa, companies - in any industry - typically don't put out RFPs unless there is work they need done, or will need done in some specific timeframe. Although, if Mesa is the cheapest, and still around, Airways will likely continue to use them.

Plus, how would that help PDT anyway? It's not like we'd do CLT-SAT anytime soon.
Parker had said they would do this with Mesa. They were going to use this Ch. 11 BK to get more favorable terms for Airways on the Mesa contracts. I guess that's what they're doing. Mesa isn't going anywhere as far as the 900s go, they will just end up doing the flights for less $, if that is even possible. Who else has 900s just sitting around ready to go anyway.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RedOverWhite
Is Mesa's contract is up soon? While it doesn't necessarily mean they intend to cut ties with Mesa, companies - in any industry - typically don't put out RFPs unless there is work they need done, or will need done in some specific timeframe. Although, if Mesa is the cheapest, and still around, Airways will likely continue to use them.

Plus, how would that help PDT anyway? It's not like we'd do CLT-SAT anytime soon.
According to Mesa's 2008 Annual Report (old, I know), at least pre-CH11, the CR9 flying is under contract until 6/30/2012. In addition, Mesa DH8 flying contract could be terminated at any time by US with 180 days written notice to Mesa mgmt.

As far as RFP's go, there's a surprising number of them that can be out at one time, even for 'safe' flying that is still under contract for a time. The Mesa CRJ 50 seat stuff that they used to do predominately out of IAD that just got replaced by ExpressJet and ASA has been bid on numerous occasions over the past few years.

While, obviously (normally?), the mainline carrier is looking for the 'low' bid, sometimes some odd RFP's are sent out that just give you the feeling that a carrier is fishing for a low bid as opposed to seriously considering doing the flying. If they can get something lowball enough, they'll take it, but it's not like they'll take the lowest of all the bids if it's not down at the level they want to make the flying viable.

As far as how certain other carriers picking up flying helps PDT, I know, this doesn't really answer your question, but think like this: The recent announcements of AirWis picking up PHLYHZ and CLTYOW, and PSA grabbing CLTBTR are, indeed, good for PDT. 3 new city pairs, and It's not really viable DH8 flying anyway due to the stage lengths, and more block hours for them will require refleeting of existing flights and somewhere in the schedule, PDT will gain additional flying.

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Interesting stuff...thanks!
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:01 AM
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Does anyone know the hours being flown on average per plane a day at PDT? Reason I am asking, PSA is less then 7 hours on average per day.... Obviously on weekends much less... Just curious where other companies are....
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any news from the farm?
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flynwmn
any news from the farm?
1) Flow through is imminent

2) More airplanes are on the way

3) I saw a RJ training syllabus on the desk of RT

Ooops, never mind, that was the news from 1994...

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Originally Posted by flynwmn
any news from the farm?
Do you have another job lined up or something? Haven't heard anything new, phone hasn't been turned off for the past 2 months.
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
phone hasn't been turned off for the past 2 months.
You on "ready" reserve?
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Originally Posted by Piedmonster
You on "ready" reserve?
I would take that right now...I only did it for nearly 2 years.
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