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#1372
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Posts: 936
People on Airliners.net are retards....don't even get me started with the crazy stuff I have read on there. Plus AWAC could not afford to buy an airline. They are gone when Airways dumps them in 2012.
#1374
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Ask scheduling
Posts: 384
I get that's it's "save yourself" right now in this industry. This is why PDT/PSA needs to be worried. We need to get the 700/900's, not contract them out. Contract carriers should fly 50 seaters that the wholly owned carrier(s) are unable to fly. Contract regionals need to go away. Mainline carriers should have their own regional certificate and that is where you are placed when you get hired, then they pull from their wholly owned carrier when spots open up at mainline. I find it annoying when a mainline carrier rather hire from a contract regional over their own wholly owned carrier. JUST MY OPINION!
#1375
I get that's it's "save yourself" right now in this industry. This is why PDT/PSA needs to be worried. We need to get the 700/900's, not contract them out. Contract carriers should fly 50 seaters that the wholly owned carrier(s) are unable to fly. Contract regionals need to go away. Mainline carriers should have their own regional certificate and that is where you are placed when you get hired, then they pull from their wholly owned carrier when spots open up at mainline. I find it annoying when a mainline carrier rather hire from a contract regional over their own wholly owned carrier. JUST MY OPINION!
BTW my last post was just saying from the perspective of AirWhisky's management, it would be smart to acquire Mesa's assets in order to ensure some sort of future providing contract feed, hopefully with UAL and not with Airways.
#1376
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: B737 F/O
Posts: 425
I'd think that any formal proposals for this would be held until the reorganization plans are submitted to the BK court. See what YV management comes up with, and then see if the buyout idea could gain traction among large creditors. However, I'd say that any plan that gets rid of JO and Foley deserves consideration.
Last edited by LostInPA; 03-05-2010 at 07:31 AM. Reason: Reworded last sentence.
#1378
Who needs ask Piedmont when you can read the news paper???
Piedmont denies 'deal' to uncover whistle-blowers : The Crash of Flight 3407 : The Buffalo News
Piedmont denies 'deal' to uncover whistle-blowers : The Crash of Flight 3407 : The Buffalo News
#1380
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 39
From Ask Piedmont:
Q. Ok, I understand the mighty dollar is king around here, but the hotel that we stay at while in training (in CLT) does not adhere to the provisions for overnight hotels in the contract. While the pilot contract states that the company must TRY to have a hotel comply with a number of criteria, the Homestead Suites does not come close to a single one. Again, NOT A SINGLE ONE, and there are at least 10 within the same driving distance from the airport and training center that do. Yes it only costs $35/nt but we don't overnight our unscheduled crews there, they overnight at the Country Inn. While we are in CLT for training, we are still on a trip no matter how you cut it and try to interpret the contract. We have a trip paring, we receive pay for it, we get 24hr per diem from day one to the end. Our pairings and schedules have to fall within the max duty limits. So, can someone please start the process to change our recurrent training hotel. It can stay that for new hires, the contract allows for it, but not past that. Besides, I for one am tired of sleeping in THE bed that a hooker was using for weeks working Johns, or in the room next to the low life morons who are partying all night (so we can't get any sleep). Or having the migrant construction crews who come and go at all hours and seem to make more noise than King Kong. When I was there last week, I one of my neighbors saw me as I was arriving in my room and said he was sooo happy I was there. He was tired of the bed hitting the walls and the sexual noises coming from what became my room. He said it lasted for over a week, all hours of the day and night. Oh, since the WX was pretty bad down there, and lots of stranded travelers filled up the rooms, I was just not lucky enough to get a different room, so I was really hoping that I at least got new sheets. Also, this place is in a BAD area, and it is HIGHLY suggested that our female and even male crew members not walk alone outside (to go eat) at night. And unless you want to go to a VERY expensive steakhouse or a dive bar down the street, you have to walk down a BUSY 6 lane road for a half mile with NO SIDEWALKS. This is a workers comp disaster waiting to happen. It's even worse when it snows. (Enough said). And please don't suggest we use the van, it is the most un-reliable van of every hotel we have in the entire system. When you have to wait 1h20m for a van pickup from the training center, the words ridiculous, pathetic and aggravating come to mind. Oh and one other thing, this was my 4th stay at the CLT Homestead Suite, and the experiences I mentioned are not limited to one of my stays. Please poll other crew mwmbers for additional shocking first hand accounts like the one with the guy walking around the parking lot with a .38 on his hip late at night, or the countless other hooker stories. This is not a one time kind of thing. The $35/nt rate can be booked by other people, and if it's not always that low, it is close. With the clientele that generally stay there, it does not help to engender comfort or trust in the company when you make the decision to "quarter" us in such accommodations. So management, any thoughts? You have a hotel that is sub-par (at best), in a bad part of town, with less than legal activities which occur regularly on the premises, which does not comply with contract provisions... C.Bucci F.O.-LGA
A. I will attempt to answer your question in a more civilized tone than your rant. We started the process of moving the CLT training hotel about six-weeks ago. It takes a few weeks to meet with the hotel management, agree on terms and then set up a direct bill account. This has been completed and we have given notice to the old hotel of our intentions. The instructors are starting the move this week and the CQ classes will move either the last week of March or the first week of April. This delay is simply because we have to use up the reservations that were already scheduled with the bid process. No one here in CLT will tell you that the old hotel is a great one but I find it hard to believe that you experienced all those issues in your one week of post-furlough training. Both Captain Modlin and I have spent the last five years there and have not had anywhere near the issues you had. For the sake of your fellow pilots I wish you had bothered to come in and talk to us. Since the new hotel was coming on-line we could have moved you and the rest of the returning furloughed pilots. Jay
What a pilot! Limited experience but he has already MASTERED the art of *****ing. As noted in the answer, all he had to do was bring his complaint to the right people and he, and the rest of the returning furloughed pilots could have enjoyed a nice hotel, with breakfast and a crew lounge.
Q. Ok, I understand the mighty dollar is king around here, but the hotel that we stay at while in training (in CLT) does not adhere to the provisions for overnight hotels in the contract. While the pilot contract states that the company must TRY to have a hotel comply with a number of criteria, the Homestead Suites does not come close to a single one. Again, NOT A SINGLE ONE, and there are at least 10 within the same driving distance from the airport and training center that do. Yes it only costs $35/nt but we don't overnight our unscheduled crews there, they overnight at the Country Inn. While we are in CLT for training, we are still on a trip no matter how you cut it and try to interpret the contract. We have a trip paring, we receive pay for it, we get 24hr per diem from day one to the end. Our pairings and schedules have to fall within the max duty limits. So, can someone please start the process to change our recurrent training hotel. It can stay that for new hires, the contract allows for it, but not past that. Besides, I for one am tired of sleeping in THE bed that a hooker was using for weeks working Johns, or in the room next to the low life morons who are partying all night (so we can't get any sleep). Or having the migrant construction crews who come and go at all hours and seem to make more noise than King Kong. When I was there last week, I one of my neighbors saw me as I was arriving in my room and said he was sooo happy I was there. He was tired of the bed hitting the walls and the sexual noises coming from what became my room. He said it lasted for over a week, all hours of the day and night. Oh, since the WX was pretty bad down there, and lots of stranded travelers filled up the rooms, I was just not lucky enough to get a different room, so I was really hoping that I at least got new sheets. Also, this place is in a BAD area, and it is HIGHLY suggested that our female and even male crew members not walk alone outside (to go eat) at night. And unless you want to go to a VERY expensive steakhouse or a dive bar down the street, you have to walk down a BUSY 6 lane road for a half mile with NO SIDEWALKS. This is a workers comp disaster waiting to happen. It's even worse when it snows. (Enough said). And please don't suggest we use the van, it is the most un-reliable van of every hotel we have in the entire system. When you have to wait 1h20m for a van pickup from the training center, the words ridiculous, pathetic and aggravating come to mind. Oh and one other thing, this was my 4th stay at the CLT Homestead Suite, and the experiences I mentioned are not limited to one of my stays. Please poll other crew mwmbers for additional shocking first hand accounts like the one with the guy walking around the parking lot with a .38 on his hip late at night, or the countless other hooker stories. This is not a one time kind of thing. The $35/nt rate can be booked by other people, and if it's not always that low, it is close. With the clientele that generally stay there, it does not help to engender comfort or trust in the company when you make the decision to "quarter" us in such accommodations. So management, any thoughts? You have a hotel that is sub-par (at best), in a bad part of town, with less than legal activities which occur regularly on the premises, which does not comply with contract provisions... C.Bucci F.O.-LGA
A. I will attempt to answer your question in a more civilized tone than your rant. We started the process of moving the CLT training hotel about six-weeks ago. It takes a few weeks to meet with the hotel management, agree on terms and then set up a direct bill account. This has been completed and we have given notice to the old hotel of our intentions. The instructors are starting the move this week and the CQ classes will move either the last week of March or the first week of April. This delay is simply because we have to use up the reservations that were already scheduled with the bid process. No one here in CLT will tell you that the old hotel is a great one but I find it hard to believe that you experienced all those issues in your one week of post-furlough training. Both Captain Modlin and I have spent the last five years there and have not had anywhere near the issues you had. For the sake of your fellow pilots I wish you had bothered to come in and talk to us. Since the new hotel was coming on-line we could have moved you and the rest of the returning furloughed pilots. Jay
What a pilot! Limited experience but he has already MASTERED the art of *****ing. As noted in the answer, all he had to do was bring his complaint to the right people and he, and the rest of the returning furloughed pilots could have enjoyed a nice hotel, with breakfast and a crew lounge.
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