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02-02-2017, 03:40 PM
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How can you say a new FO will upgrade quicker at PDT than any other regional regardless of the wait? If someone is hired at regional A and has a line within a month, and the new guy at PDT has to wait 6 months to start training, then the guy at regional A will be a CA at least 6 months before the PDT guy. 1,000 hours is the minimum, and those hours are not loggable on the couch.
All things being equal, that first year everyone else is either sitting in a crashpad on reserve, or sitting in line to upgrade in a couple of years at another regional. Outside of DEC hires at other regionals a new FO will upgrade quicker at PDT than the other 121 regionals regardless if they have a wait in training or not.
02-02-2017, 03:49 PM
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How can you say a new FO will upgrade quicker at PDT than any other regional regardless of the wait? If someone is hired at regional A and has a line within a month, and the new guy at PDT has to wait 6 months to start training, then the guy at regional A will be a CA at least 6 months before the PDT guy. 1,000 hours is the minimum, and those hours are not loggable on the couch.
02-02-2017, 03:55 PM
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Fair enough, I just saw it in a coupla messages, then realized it was BS after I posted.
Still... 4-8 weeks on the couch, and you will be behind your peers who go straight thru training and on to a line. Only by your hold up, but I know guys who sat as an FO for an extra 3 years because of a 2-week delay in the past.
What is RSV time at PDT these days after IOE?
Still... 4-8 weeks on the couch, and you will be behind your peers who go straight thru training and on to a line. Only by your hold up, but I know guys who sat as an FO for an extra 3 years because of a 2-week delay in the past.
What is RSV time at PDT these days after IOE?
02-02-2017, 04:05 PM
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Fair enough, I just saw it in a coupla messages, then realized it was BS after I posted.
Still... 4-8 weeks on the couch, and you will be behind your peers who go straight thru training and on to a line. Only by your hold up, but I know guys who sat as an FO for an extra 3 years because of a 2-week delay in the past.
What is RSV time at PDT these days after IOE?
Still... 4-8 weeks on the couch, and you will be behind your peers who go straight thru training and on to a line. Only by your hold up, but I know guys who sat as an FO for an extra 3 years because of a 2-week delay in the past.
What is RSV time at PDT these days after IOE?
Interview in February, finish OE and start building hours towards your upgrade by the 4th of July.
02-02-2017, 04:17 PM
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Ok, but I stand by the reasoning that at another airline one could interview in February, be in class in March, hit the line in July, and be at least 4 weeks ahead of the PDT new hire. 5 months from interview to having a line.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
02-02-2017, 04:39 PM
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Ok, but I stand by the reasoning that at another airline one could interview in February, be in class in March, hit the line in July, and be at least 4 weeks ahead of the PDT new hire. 5 months from interview to having a line.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
02-02-2017, 04:42 PM
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Ok, but I stand by the reasoning that at another airline one could interview in February, be in class in March, hit the line in July, and be at least 4 weeks ahead of the PDT new hire. 5 months from interview to having a line.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
In your example, interview in February, hit the line in August or September. That guy will be a month or two behind the power curve, by my math.
It only matters when that new guy hits the tipping point of the upgrade fulcrum. At some point, the fast upgrade will be gone, and the first guy after that will wish he hadn't sat on the couch for 4-8 weeks is all I am saying.
This whole upgrade / flow / no rsv thing is a bit of a pyramid scheme. Everything remains rosy while there is growth. Lets not forget we have been in a up business cycle since 2009 - what happens with recession - music stops, upgrades stop, flow stops, misery rules all. This is not a new movie - its a rerun.
02-02-2017, 04:45 PM
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What does little reserve mean? 2 weeks, or 2 months? I can't figure out how any airline can run without an active reserve list of pilots for when plan A fails.. Or is it senior guys bidding reserve because they would rather watch Oprah from their couch?
Not trolling - just can't figure this out (my ignorance)
Not trolling - just can't figure this out (my ignorance)
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