Jumpseating out of TUL not allowed?
07-13-2008, 01:47 PM
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From the way I understand it that is not all that uncommon of a situation. Each airport and TSA operation are somewhat of an independent entity. They have to follow general rules and practices but they can use measures outside of the norm (eg. no jumpseating without a boarding pass or uniform). Heard of the some of the same similar responses too such as "your airline doesn't operate here" thereby making you a non-operating crew member. In some cases these guys are just doing there jobs and all they know to look for is where is the boarding pass.
07-13-2008, 01:48 PM
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A boarding pass is NEVER EVER EVER required, no matter what airport (in the US). That being said, I always have issues no matter where I go. One day in LAX no problem, the next day I need a boarding pass. Repeat for SLC, SFO, DEN, I've had issues everywhere. The problem is each individual TSA operates however they see fit. They certainly don't have to answer to the pilot group. And if you quote or reference the AOSSP to them in any way, they can have you arrested. It's a lose-lose unfortunately however you look at it, so if I get hassled, I just play the Saturday Night Live TSA skit in my head a couple times, and it makes me feel better at least for a little bit.
07-13-2008, 01:53 PM
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07-13-2008, 03:55 PM
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Keep pursuing the matter with the higher ups at the TSA. I had a similar situation in which I almost got arrested. I called, e-mailed, and snail mailed the TSA "customer service" people and got a letter which I carry around in my bag from the director of the TSA at JFK which says something like any crew member is allowed through a security checkpoint with a valid air carrier ID badge. The only exception is if a terminal in strictly for international based carriers. Get a direct phone number to someone who has a little bit of power.
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