Chapter 7 For Mesa
#101
It's great he's your hero, but I'd think twice about him being your pilot.
5 time faliures at the regional interview level in a market that has been flat out desperate for the last 5 years (not including the last few months), don't say much about your survival in the back of that tube if he is.
I give you 50/50 odds at best.
5 time faliures at the regional interview level in a market that has been flat out desperate for the last 5 years (not including the last few months), don't say much about your survival in the back of that tube if he is.
I give you 50/50 odds at best.
#102
Muushin,
I'm sensing a lot of angst and flame. Beginning in April of this year, you started bashing Mesa profusely. What gives?
Voice your opinion
So what's your horrific story? Are you Canadian? Don't they have airline jobs in Canada or do you just want to take jobs from Americans? Does it have anything to do with this?
PRIA and failed systems training
Seriously dude, systems training?
Looks like Mesa was on your radar for a while. How's that Mesaba gig working out?
Posted on 5/25/07
Posted on 6/10/07. What??? How old are you? Man you age fast. Bitter old man.
Kettle - Black
Take your flame bait elsewhere. This isn't flightinfo!
I'm sensing a lot of angst and flame. Beginning in April of this year, you started bashing Mesa profusely. What gives?
Voice your opinion
So what's your horrific story? Are you Canadian? Don't they have airline jobs in Canada or do you just want to take jobs from Americans? Does it have anything to do with this?
PRIA and failed systems training
Seriously dude, systems training?
Question!!
If you really wanted to fly for Mesaba, in earnest, you liked what you saw at the interview, and you were offered a spot at Mesaba, but did not have a class date. But, YOU DID have a class date at :
Mesa,
Go Jets,
Ex Jet & Peidmont,
all offering a class date way before July, & still wanted to fly with Mesaba, could one interpret that no class date, might equivocate to the possibility that Mesaba HR might drop you as July approaches?
What I am getting at is these are all real offers, the July thing, well, , I kind of feel that I am in a Pool because of the lack of a class date.
If you really wanted to fly for Mesaba, in earnest, you liked what you saw at the interview, and you were offered a spot at Mesaba, but did not have a class date. But, YOU DID have a class date at :
Mesa,
Go Jets,
Ex Jet & Peidmont,
all offering a class date way before July, & still wanted to fly with Mesaba, could one interpret that no class date, might equivocate to the possibility that Mesaba HR might drop you as July approaches?
What I am getting at is these are all real offers, the July thing, well, , I kind of feel that I am in a Pool because of the lack of a class date.
Take your flame bait elsewhere. This isn't flightinfo!
#103
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You're a CFI aren't you? You don't even hold a job at an airline of any kind and you have the nerve to talk down to anyone in this industry during this, one of the bigger downturns in history?
I can stomach taking flak from a bitter, 20 year AE guy (that situation will do that to a person), but the fact that I wasted my time responding to your immature, unfounded posts makes me sick.
I can stomach taking flak from a bitter, 20 year AE guy (that situation will do that to a person), but the fact that I wasted my time responding to your immature, unfounded posts makes me sick.
So say what you want to about me, for I am just another pilot badmouthing a bad company, smart enough to know that my commenting on a disreputable company is far more important than the insults about me and whatever else you can muster up regarding backhanded insults or air's of superiority that are childishly sneered toward me. The fact shines out like a star in the heavens that mesa is a stigma, a pit on the planet, and I am truly sorry if that offends you but, be not mistaken mesa must be gone ASAP.
#104
Hey now, no need for insults, Insulting me will not make you a better pilot than me, on the contrary, as a good 121 pilot gainfully employed, I question your ability piloting anything under pressure, if you have to resort to character insults to convey your point across. In fact, let it show that you represent the company you work for by the integrity of the composure of you demeanor. Notwithstanding that you and the rest of mesa is in its death throws and that under the circumstances, we acknowledge what you are going through, but the unfortunate reality is that things are usually what they seem, and long long before I came on this site bad mouthing mesa and, from my own dastardly experiences with the, a whole lot of other people, from all walks of life within and from outside of the industry have had, or, have heard of, horrific experiences and unbelievable dealings with mesa.
So say what you want to about me, for I am just another pilot badmouthing a bad company, smart enough to know that my commenting on a disreputable company is far more important than the insults about me and whatever else you can muster up regarding backhanded insults or air's of superiority. The fact shines out like a star in the heavens that mesa is a stigma, a pit on the planet, and I am truly sorry if that offends you nut mesa must be gone ASAP.
So say what you want to about me, for I am just another pilot badmouthing a bad company, smart enough to know that my commenting on a disreputable company is far more important than the insults about me and whatever else you can muster up regarding backhanded insults or air's of superiority. The fact shines out like a star in the heavens that mesa is a stigma, a pit on the planet, and I am truly sorry if that offends you nut mesa must be gone ASAP.
The above response of yours was clearly an attempt to look further down your nose by using $5 and $10 words. It doesn't make much sense, and reads terribly.
Look at you bringing up my skills as a pilot, and my ability to perform under pressure. That's hilarious, and infantile.
Don't pride yourself, I'm laughing my ass off at you while enjoying a beer.
#105
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I did some research, and found you weren't CFI and changed the context of my post. Take a look at it and respond in a coherant manner.
The above response of yours was clearly an attempt to look further down your nose by using $5 and $10 words. It doesn't make much sense, and reads terribly.
Don't pride yourself, I'm laughing my ass off at you while enjoying a beer.
The above response of yours was clearly an attempt to look further down your nose by using $5 and $10 words. It doesn't make much sense, and reads terribly.
Don't pride yourself, I'm laughing my ass off at you while enjoying a beer.
And mesa is a good place to work with people having good things to say and the future is really bright and is not going to be out of business very soon.
yes, you are going places real fast!!
BTW
personal insults out of your rantings truly shows your character, or lack of...
And learn how to spell like a mature adult, that is a prerequisite for being one.
Just another reason why mesa has such a reputation, one would surmise.
Last edited by muushin; 07-05-2008 at 02:54 PM.
#107
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5
It's great he's your hero, but I'd think twice about him being your pilot.
5 time faliures at the regional interview level in a market that has been flat out desperate for the last 5 years (not including the last few months), don't say much about your survival in the back of that tube if he is.
I give you 50/50 odds at best.
5 time faliures at the regional interview level in a market that has been flat out desperate for the last 5 years (not including the last few months), don't say much about your survival in the back of that tube if he is.
I give you 50/50 odds at best.
#108
My Mesa Experience
FWIW, I've enjoyed my 5 years here at Mesa. It has been a pretty good gig for me.
Berating pilots for working @ a company w/ a questionable CEO is a total waste of time. I became a pilot because I enjoy flying airplanes, not to satisfy some corporate executive. I wouldn't slander a United pilot because they choose to work for Glen Tilton...it's not their fault. Faulting a Mesa pilot for dragging the industry down is no different than faulting United pilots for bringing the industry down as well...a totally ludicrous assertion.
As far as Mesa hiring left-overs who didn't get hired anywhere else: who cares. The recent newhires I've worked w/ have done a fine job and despite the current climate in the industry have kept their heads high, so frankly, I'm glad we got 'em. Talk to some of the guys/gals who are working today @ Southwest, UPS, FedEx and were hired at those carriers 10 or more years ago...the pilots who helped build those companies into what they are today, I'm sure many of them were rejected at previous interviews only to hit it big w/ their current carriers.
- I'm home every night, don't do overnights
- Learned a lot from my exeriences here, I've gotten to fly in one of the more challenging areas of the U.S. in the Dash 8. It has made me a better pilot.
- My first 2.5 yrs. here @ Mesa I averaged between 200 and 220 days off per year while flying between 900-1000 hrs. per year.
- I've flown w/ many different pilots here w/ 10,000 to 20,000 hrs. of flight time and served w/ some first-rate flight attendants who have practically treated me like a son.
Berating pilots for working @ a company w/ a questionable CEO is a total waste of time. I became a pilot because I enjoy flying airplanes, not to satisfy some corporate executive. I wouldn't slander a United pilot because they choose to work for Glen Tilton...it's not their fault. Faulting a Mesa pilot for dragging the industry down is no different than faulting United pilots for bringing the industry down as well...a totally ludicrous assertion.
As far as Mesa hiring left-overs who didn't get hired anywhere else: who cares. The recent newhires I've worked w/ have done a fine job and despite the current climate in the industry have kept their heads high, so frankly, I'm glad we got 'em. Talk to some of the guys/gals who are working today @ Southwest, UPS, FedEx and were hired at those carriers 10 or more years ago...the pilots who helped build those companies into what they are today, I'm sure many of them were rejected at previous interviews only to hit it big w/ their current carriers.
#109
Muushin,
I'm sensing a lot of angst and flame. Beginning in April of this year, you started bashing Mesa profusely. What gives?
Voice your opinion
So what's your horrific story? Are you Canadian? Don't they have airline jobs in Canada or do you just want to take jobs from Americans? Does it have anything to do with this?
PRIA and failed systems training
Seriously dude, systems training?
Looks like Mesa was on your radar for a while. How's that Mesaba gig working out?
Posted on 5/25/07
Posted on 6/10/07. What??? How old are you? Man you age fast. Bitter old man.
Kettle - Black
Take your flame bait elsewhere. This isn't flightinfo!
I'm sensing a lot of angst and flame. Beginning in April of this year, you started bashing Mesa profusely. What gives?
Voice your opinion
So what's your horrific story? Are you Canadian? Don't they have airline jobs in Canada or do you just want to take jobs from Americans? Does it have anything to do with this?
PRIA and failed systems training
Seriously dude, systems training?
Looks like Mesa was on your radar for a while. How's that Mesaba gig working out?
Posted on 5/25/07
Posted on 6/10/07. What??? How old are you? Man you age fast. Bitter old man.
Kettle - Black
Take your flame bait elsewhere. This isn't flightinfo!
Last edited by Ski Patrol; 07-05-2008 at 03:40 PM.
#110
If Muush is bitter because of an event, he needs to accept responsibility, regardless of how raw a deal he feels he received (STS).
He needs to move forward and learn from the experience.
His posts were getting repetitive and definitely not in the spirit of the Airline Pilot Central forums. We don't need to turn this board into another flightinfo.
A regional airline lifestyle, for most, is not a good one.
If you are unhappy, by all means, find yourself a better job. That's your right. If you want to make a regional a career, that's your right too. Always remember, one mans trash is another mans treasure. It's what you make of it.
With that being said, don't lose sight of your dreams and goals. Upgrade. Move forward. Don't get stuck in the quagmire. It's called a cyclical industry for a reason.
Mods, I think it's time to close this one down.
Last edited by Jake Speed; 07-05-2008 at 03:58 PM.
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