dingo222

want to hold mgmt to it's word??? vote in a union before november. problem solved

flyguyniner11

yeah but to be honest i havnt heard anything about another union vote, everyone seems to think that its all gonna magically happen i think, but dont was have to sign cards again to authorize another vote?

The Juice

[quote=naley70b;417441]How is it that colgan is bleeding money in LGA fly t-props? I mean, you guys have really low labor costs and I don't know all the intricacies of the contract (is there even one?) with Airways, I'm a EN LGA FO so i'm interested about the new routes, but i've got quite a few friends doing the colgan and i don't wanna see anyone lose their job, especially due to underhanded management techniques.




Colgan is losing money on the LGS opps. They went to US Air and said they could not do it for that cheap and US Air is giving the flying to its Piedmont.

Colgan only gets the money from the flight to LGA and then wherever the pax goes from there goes to US Airways. US Airways has discounted some of the fares into LGA so that means a smaller cut for Colgan but US Airways still makes up for it with the higher fare when the pax connects in LGA. Colgan could make money on those flights by cutting back frequency but Airways wants the flights to go regardless of pax count because they want to keep their traffic slots at LGA which are valuable.

newarkblows

you cant turn a whole lot of revenue in 19 or 30 seats. As much as everyone likes to believe turboprops are the most fuel efficient way to transport people you still have economies of scale. larger airplanes have lower CASM. the dash8-200 can move 50 folks for a small increase in fuel burn over the 30 seat saab... with more cutbacks coming to the industry you may be able to fill larger aircraft and smaller t props need to find new routes to fit their size

cfii2007

Aren't they picking up routes from XJT?

newarkblows

some but most are new routes like ewr-phl and some were future q400 routes where they couldnt fill 74 seats.

Laxrox43

...Don't you mean 37 seats? AND Piedmont doesn't fly 200's anymore. They dumped those a little over 2 years ago. They fly 100's and 300's. The 100's hold 37 pax, and the 300's hold 50 pax. Get it right!

newarkblows

your right i meant 30-ish when talking about the saab's. All i know about piedmont is that they have dash 8 with 50 seats on em..

Laxrox43

Just bustin' your stones bro...no worries.

Colgan Saabs have 30-34 seats, Piedmonts' Dash8-100 have 37, and Dash8-300 have 50.

stoki

What about the rest of Colgans Airways flying? Whats the news on that?