All UAX carriers will be denying jumpseat to UAL mainline pilots on 8/31/08
06-30-2008, 12:31 PM
#71
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I am not in favor of denying anyone the jumpseat, ever. HOWEVER: I myself have been personally bumped out of the jumpseat by a UAL mainline pilot on MY OWN AIRLINE. I could not get past the gate agent, and the UAL pilot pretty much told me to pound sand when I explained the situation to him. I couldn't get ahold of the captain in time to make a difference.
Granted, to some commuting is dog eat dog, but for a commuter to not at least point out the problem and tell the agent the company guy should get the seat and not him is pretty crappy. Shame on the UAL guy.
06-30-2008, 12:42 PM
#72
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06-30-2008, 12:43 PM
#73
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We live in a republic, not a true democracy...people do plenty on your behalf without your consent or a majority vote all the time. This would be absolutely no different.
I boldly predict this entire thread is a bunch of strong emotions and heated words that ultimately will be a complete and total waste of time, because the issue will finally get worked out...which is the ENTIRE POINT of this letter.
Think of it as a strike vote...only more effective.
I boldly predict this entire thread is a bunch of strong emotions and heated words that ultimately will be a complete and total waste of time, because the issue will finally get worked out...which is the ENTIRE POINT of this letter.
Think of it as a strike vote...only more effective.
06-30-2008, 12:45 PM
#74
The NeverEnding Story
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Well TD, the letter was signed by Shuttle America and Chautauqua...has Jackie B weighed in on any of this for ya'll at RP?
06-30-2008, 12:45 PM
#75
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I never said anything was fair. I said it's being handled in the completely wrong manner. Regardless of what's being done THIS isn't right.
06-30-2008, 12:48 PM
#76
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RAH has made no official stance on this. We have received no memo from the company which for this we would have. We have received no communication from the union on this either. Until those proper channels are taken pilots are acting on their own. No UAL pilot gets kicked off our plane over this. If the CA sends one walking off one of my flights I'll go walking with him. These actions could affect the company's position with UAL and no action should be taken until they weigh in on the situation. The people that signed that letter don't have the ability to take action. They take complaints and try to resolve them in a non-evasive manner. If that doesn't work then they should go to the union and, since it directly affects our pilots getting to our planes, should have been taken to the company for a response. They tried to resolve the problem, it didn't work, then THEY took action, or give the illusion of it, which isn't suppose to happen.
06-30-2008, 12:49 PM
#77
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This is different because this is trying to act in an official capacity yet has no official backing. There has been no letter from my company nor my union about this. Until then it's just a few people thinking they have power when they don't. I'd actually expect our union to be upset that it was circumvented. Pilots don't take agreed upon action in an official capacity unless they have the support and the approval to do so. The first time they hear about it shouldn't be when it's posted on the WWW. Until backed by either our union or our company with written consent this is nothing more than another random post. There's a lot of liability that can be attached to something like this should it go sour.
06-30-2008, 12:54 PM
#78
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RAH has made no official stance on this. We have received no memo from the company which for this we would have. We have received no communication from the union on this either. Until those proper channels are taken pilots are acting on their own. No UAL pilot gets kicked off our plane over this. If the CA sends one walking off one of my flights I'll go walking with him. These actions could affect the company's position with UAL and no action should be taken until they weigh in on the situation.
06-30-2008, 12:54 PM
#79
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RAH has made no official stance on this. We have received no memo from the company which for this we would have. We have received no communication from the union on this either. Until those proper channels are taken pilots are acting on their own. No UAL pilot gets kicked off our plane over this. If the CA sends one walking off one of my flights I'll go walking with him. These actions could affect the company's position with UAL and no action should be taken until they weigh in on the situation.
May I suggest you call Jackie B, YOUR JUMPSEAT COORDINATOR AT CHAUTAUQUA, and ask her directly what the eff is going on with this?
06-30-2008, 12:57 PM
#80
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There's no message on the company website regarding this. I'm looking at it now. I also check my mail regularly and don't have anything from the teamsters about it. Surely if they wanted to take such a wide action I'd hear about it. They sent bag tags to show unity but forgot to say anything about a national "screw the UAL guys" pact? Yea right.
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