Blkflyer

Funny I thought that Delta Owns the Legal System in Atlanta..

H46Bubba

That JFK crap is bogus. Most of Freedoms ERJ ops were out of MCO, not JFK.

rickair7777

Why tick off ALL of your regionals? Much better to decide who you want to get rid of, do the deed, and then make nice with what's left.

If you break EVERBODIES contracts, that's a lot of lawsuits and you might not win all of them.

Airsupport

i am not talking about flying contracts or pilots. i am talking about company people. when delta farms out the regional flying there is a lot more to it than pilots and ground personell. for example there are guys at comair, asa, and skywest that are incharge of fuel quality control, gate leases, properties contracts, inventory control, etc, etc. well from what i am hearing delta is tired of paying for all of those things too and will be taking them over in the next few months. they also said they have no plans to bring any of the people who lose their jobs over to the delta side. and they have no plans in increasing their own staff. so there will be several thousand people losing their jobs at these 3 regionals and the same amount of staff at delta to pick up the slack. i wonder how long those guys at delta will put up with all the extra work, no help, and no pay increase before they finally have had enough. they may be keeping delta's name, but their nwa side is showing.

like i said earlier if they keep this up the merger just may not go through.

Justdoinmyjob

Airsupport,
How long have you been in the airline biz? What you describe happening at DL has been going on in this business since de-regulation. Did you not do due diligence on the industry you were entering? I know it's frustrating to see furloughs, concessions, and broken dreams, but really, how can you be suprised? The carcasses of former airlines litter the playing field like an epic gladiator battle. Is it the right way to do business? No, but it is what it is, and unfortunately the employees are nothing more than numbers to be manipulated to better the bottom line.

Airsupport

maybe you missed the point of my entire post. what i am saying is that delta has stated since day one of merger talks that it would be good for employees, no jobs would be lost, etc etc. yet before the merger is even close to being finalized they are starting to slash and burn.

and like i said in a previous post i am not refering to pilots, or fa's, or anything that has to do with actual work at the airport. i am refering to the people at the offices. delta does not own asa or skywest, yet has made it known to them that the jobs ALOT of their people are doing wont be necesarry anymore because they are moving them to big daddy delta. comair pretty much has no say in it since they are owned by delta anyway.

all i am saying is there is going to be a big shakedown of the regionals that operate ( and once again i will clarify i am not talking planes, pilots, contracts, etc, etc ) for delta in the coming months and it wont be pretty.

Justdoinmyjob

Well, there's the problem! They were talking about mainline employees and jobs. Delta always only talks about their employees. Anything to do with DCI etc, always comes out of the respective HQs.

That's always the problem when you are a subcontractor and don't own your own flying. Not trying to be ugly, but all DL cares about is their bottom line and if they will roll over their own employees to achieve the goal, what chance to subcontractors have?

See above response. Even Boyd has been predicting this very thing happening for a few years now.

RJtrashPilot

You'd probably love to see that, wouldn't you?

Especially since you think Pinnacle is in the clear. But if they close MEM, wouldn't lots of Pinnacle guys lose their jobs? Or does Comair, ASA and Skywest just get the shaft and Pinnacle takes over everything and become the new Skywest.

Scoop

It would be bad for the above mentioned employees to lose their jobs. But no worse than the thousands of DAL employees who lost their jobs post 911 while the above mentioned groups flourished. Good luck to all airline employees, we will all need it.

Scoop

andy171773

Unfortunately that was then, this is now. Delta will EASILY get away with what they're doing since fuel is so unbelievably high. I think this merger will go through (for better or worse) no matter what.