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Old 06-16-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
FedEx guys?? What were they fired?? Somehow, I just don't see someone living off $250K + with a pension, long layovers, 12 day months, etc., coming over to Pinnacle to make $16K a year, 3% on a 401k and fly with a company that "doesn't respect the pilots". That quote comes from nearly every Pinnacle pilot on this forum. How about quit acting like a 17 year old on a roid high every time someone questions you and check the facts you use to support your arguments.

Actually we've had a few fedex pilots come over. They retired at fedex right before new age 65, then came to work at pinnacle when age 65 came into effect. Boost to the social security benefits and alimony.
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
FedEx guys?? What were they fired?? Somehow, I just don't see someone living off $250K + with a pension, long layovers, 12 day months, etc., coming over to Pinnacle to make $16K a year, 3% on a 401k and fly with a company that "doesn't respect the pilots". That quote comes from nearly every Pinnacle pilot on this forum. How about quit acting like a 17 year old on a roid high every time someone questions you and check the facts you use to support your arguments.
Actually, there were some Fedex age 60+ that were recently hired. Who is on the roids again? Doubt they'll fly for us long though. I can't imagine anyone from Fedex dealing with our schedulers for more than 3 seconds. Two different planets. "Junior Man??? Yeah I gotcher junior man right here buddy! CLICK!"

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Old 06-16-2008, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Noseeums
Actually, there were some Fedex age 60+ that were recently hired. Who is on the roids again? Doubt they'll fly for us long though. I can't imagine anyone from Fedex dealing with our schedulers for more than 3 seconds. Two different planets. "Junior Man??? Yeah I gotcher junior man right right buddy! CLICK!"
On that, we're in complete agreement. I envision him getting the junior man call and having flashbacks to getting a field draft at FedEx where he made more from a trip than he'll make in a year at Pinnacle. The flashbacks will be to much. Sadly, Pinnacle rampees will find him naked in a fetal position in the cargo hold of the CRJ sucking his thumb saying "there's no place like home Phil, there's no place like home".
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Old 06-16-2008, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
FedEx guys?? What were they fired?? Somehow, I just don't see someone living off $250K + with a pension, long layovers, 12 day months, etc., coming over to Pinnacle to make $16K a year, 3% on a 401k and fly with a company that "doesn't respect the pilots". That quote comes from nearly every Pinnacle pilot on this forum. How about quit acting like a 17 year old on a roid high every time someone questions you and check the facts you use to support your arguments.
Airsupport will never get it. I even predicted his typical response before it even happened: Totalling ignoring the points I made and making it seem like I was ripping on every Pinnacle pilot, when in reality I was not. I quoted what I said earlier and you can see I wasn't ripping on all Pinnacle pilots, just those that think they are God's gift to aviation. Airsupport's typical response always involves twisting my words around to distract from the point I made about he feels he is self entitled over mainline pilots.

Notice how I said some, not all of the pilots at Pinnacle. He totally side stepped the fact that there are UND grads that have been hired at Pinnacle this past year with 200 hours total and 25 hours multi. Remember I went to UND and loved it, so it is not a bash on UND at all, just me pointing out a sad truth.

Airsupport lives in this fantasy world, where he thinks that when he and his fellow cronies, who act entitled like he does, all bash me, he thinks that I am in the wrong. I just wish the good pilots over at Pinnacle would just get on here and tell Airsupport how bad it really is to fly the -900 at those rates. As I said earlier, I have no gripe with any -900 pilot who agrees those rates are hogwash. I do find it funny that when other pilots have brought up Airline Pilot Central to me, Airsupport is mentioned as a guy they can't stand. I usually just laugh, without telling them how much I actually get into it on here with him... "Oh yeah, yeah I've read his posts before, that guy is out there."

Originally Posted by tpersuit
Well I think that statement just vindicates what I have been saying about some of you guys on here from Pinnacle.

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Now, before all of you guys get on me again, I want to make it perfectly clear that this is only directed at the guys who don't think it is a problem with themsleves flying the -900 for those rates. You can be flying it and be perfectly cool in my book, if you agree its bogus pay and that ANY Delta and Northwest pilot can dislike you as much as they want.

...A lot of UND grads went there with barely over 200 hours total and 25 hours multi. I'm from UND and loved it there, so that comment isn't a bash towards UND. Just trying to shed some light on some of the pilots that have been hired over at Pinnacle recently. Doesn't this just make you just all warm and fuzzy that this Pinnacle pilot just got on a DELTA MAINLINE PILOT'S CASE?

Oh, Airsupport, I can't wait for you to dig yourself out of this one.
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Old 06-16-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
FedEx guys?? What were they fired?? Somehow, I just don't see someone living off $250K + with a pension, long layovers, 12 day months, etc., coming over to Pinnacle to make $16K a year, 3% on a 401k and fly with a company that "doesn't respect the pilots". That quote comes from nearly every Pinnacle pilot on this forum. How about quit acting like a 17 year old on a roid high every time someone questions you and check the facts you use to support your arguments.
Those who left FDX when turning 60 and before the age 65 rule was passed were SOL for going back. I don't know the guy who came here but his chapter with FDX was done once he retired. I do not understand why he would want to come over here to fly 1000 hours a year in an RJ but there are plenty of interesting things going on with FDX staffing right now.

Not starting a battle, just presenting another light.
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Old 06-16-2008, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
I just wish the good pilots over at Pinnacle would just get on here and tell Airsupport how bad it really is to fly the -900 at those rates. As I said earlier, I have no gripe with any -900 pilot who agrees those rates are hogwash. I do find it funny that when other pilots have brought up Airline Pilot Central to me, Airsupport is mentioned as a guy they can't stand. I usually just laugh, without telling them how much I actually get into it on here with him... "Oh yeah, yeah I've read his posts before, that guy is out there."
HAHAHA.. no sir. THIS MADE ME LAUGH!! you actually talk about this when you are out and about? wow...

please see the following posts to see if i have been twisting your words, and what others thought of his "out there" posts:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27348

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27214

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27262

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27029

i could go on, and on. you have locked so many threads with flame bait.

i am done responding to you tpersuit. you obviously dont listen to anyone but yourself. even when EVERYONE ELSE IS TELLING You to **** you still carry on... good luck and good night.

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i am done responding to you tpersuit. you obviously dont listen to anyone but yourself. even when EVERYONE ELSE IS TELLING You to **** you still carry on... good luck and good night.
Airsupport, you will never learn... sad
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:24 PM
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Honestly. What the hell is a Delta pilot doing trolling around regional threads? What impact does that have on you at all and exactly how much accurate input can you provide? You are just like every other pilot, a blue collar worker trying to make white collar wages. At the Legacy level you are getting decent pay but you have ZERO input into the direction of the company. And I hope you are not too junior because your butt will be looking to fly a RJ after the merger if furloughs are incurred.

I have watched and just am curious as to tpersuit and his holiness thoughts on other airlines. You are sooo proud of your airline and work rules you just seem to need to remind everyone else of it. Why do you put so much effort into things that don't affect you? Why are you right and everyone else wrong....Especially when it is not even your airline? Get a girlfriend or a dog man.

Any news to support a positive for the industry right now is good news. We are a pilot group. Unfortunately we do not factor into the day to day decisions so we can only work to better our own circumstances. Bashing others is what is absolutely wrong with this industry.

It's like bragging about being the tallest midget at the carnival. Dude, you are still a midget.
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:56 PM
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This fighting is ridiculous. Like Airsupport said, those rates were decided for us. And they are based on the old contract. On top of that, while I would agree some of the rates are not so hot, others are at the very least average or better. How many other regional airlines offer first year FO's $26 per hour to start? Not sure how many. Some airlines don't even distinguish between types of RJ. So cut your beef with Pinnacle and get out of here. Looks like you're just going around picking fights.

But, hopefully if this new TA is as close as everybody says.... they will be going up even more. We'll see...

How about getting back on topic. Anybody have other info about DL possibly reversing their decision?
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:18 PM
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This fighting is ridiculous. Like Airsupport said, those rates were decided for us. And they are based on the old contract. On top of that, while I would agree some of the rates are not so hot, others are at the very least average or better. How many other regional airlines offer first year FO's $26 per hour to start? Not sure how many. Some airlines don't even distinguish between types of RJ. So cut your beef with Pinnacle and get out of here. Looks like you're just going around picking fights.

But, hopefully if this new TA is as close as everybody says.... they will be going up even more. We'll see...

How about getting back on topic. Anybody have other info about DL possibly reversing their decision?
The only word I heard was that they were increasing our flights for the month of July, we will not have a spare, we have postponed any new delivery for now....
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