Originally Posted by ATL9E

Where is this? Can you copy and paste this? And what is "well after" Sept. 1st?

A lot of us down here are keeping are fingers crossed about the whole situation. Many of us are from Atlanta, and I've never seen crews work this hard -- more now than ever -- to get flights out on time and back in within 14 minutes. But we all know how it goes, there is just so much out of our control.

So we're all hoping for the best. Many of us do believe this is a scare tactic.... forcing 9E into doing, well.. doing something..... whether it be getting a contract for the pilots or lowering costs to Delta... or something else.... we don't know.

Originally Posted by H46Bubba

1. Deltanet. 2. I can't because it's proprietary (i.e. like'd to keep my job) 3. Sept 31st

Originally Posted by H46Bubba

1. Deltanet. 2. I can't because it's proprietary (i.e. like'd to keep my job) 3. Sept 31st

Originally Posted by DAL4EVER

My post was not below the belt. I was just a bit incredulous that he thought losing the DAL flying was "no big deal". If they get rid of 10 MD-80s here, it is a very "big deal". That involves flying jobs, lost opportunities, etc.

I am an anomaly at DAL in that I am 100% civilian. Flight instructed, flew night freight, flew at two regionals, etc. I have many close friends still at the regionals and never hit below the belt to them because I remember not to many years ago the caliber of pilot that I flew with. I loved their enthusiasm, love of flying, building the hours, talking about who got hired where, and the over all can do attitude. I never dampen it. I welcome it. It is the only thing that gives me hope for this crazy industry.

I am just amazed at how times have changed. I think its telling that pilots really think the worst that can happen to them is that they get furloughed, go back to grad school and look for employment outside of flying. I hope management is smart enough to read these threads and take note. If pilots don't feel like they are a hostage to the industry then they may bolt en masse if it gets worse. Things will get really interesting if the regionals can't staff classes or their cockpits.

I wish you all the best of luck, I am simply correcting an opinion that I felt was rather cavalier that's all.

Originally Posted by nicholasblonde

PS> I think it's a little bit below the belt/unprofessional the way some DAL mainline guys are on these threads talking down to us regional guys like we're a bunch of spoiled children, or that we deserve to lose our flying/jobs just because we haven't been through a f-lough and they have. I'll never wish that upon anyone, even if it's a company that's taking flying from my company. You have better paid in-house lawyers and you make more money than us, and have more experience than (most) of our pilots (yeah, we have some lifers here who have way more time in this industry than you, and a few military guys too)...so why do you guys need to come on apc and make side comments bashing down the optimism of the few guys on here who are trying to rationalize a bad thing that happened to our company?

Originally Posted by tpersuit

Well I think that statement just vindicates what I have been saying about some of you guys on here from Pinnacle.

Note:
Now, before all of you guys get on me again, I want to make it perfectly clear that this is only directed at the guys who don't think it is a problem with themsleves flying the -900 for those rates. You can be flying it and be perfectly cool in my book, if you agree its bogus pay and that ANY Delta and Northwest pilot can dislike you as much as they want.

Basically you just admitted that the Delta guys shouldn't be upset that you fly the -900 for subpar wages compared to mainline DC-9 and MD-80 pay, which the -900 is replacing.

Just so everyone else knows a little well kept secret about some of the fresh new Pinnacle pilots. A lot of UND grads went there with barely over 200 hours total and 25 hours multi. I'm from UND and loved it there, so that comment isn't a bash towards UND. Just trying to shed some light on some of the pilots that have been hired over at Pinnacle recently. Doesn't this just make you just all warm and fuzzy that this Pinnacle pilot just got on a DELTA MAINLINE PILOT'S CASE?

Oh, Airsupport, I can't wait for you to dig yourself out of this one.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

I wouldn't put a lot of stock in deltanet...my commutes routinely get changed a few days out.

Originally Posted by Airsupport

oh god, here comes tpersuit with his flame baits again.. lets see in one post you bashed pinnacle pilots, low time guys, 900 rates, und, etc etc. man you just cant help yourself can you. you will be glad to know i forgot all about you till this post so i haven't been talking about you while in flight. are you trying to set a record for closing threads with your flame bait?? GGM

any way your ignorance once again is showing. you are bashing us for our 900 rates?? you do know that a mediator set those rates right. you do know we had no say in those rates right? you do know that everyone else out there that flies 900's set the bar for our rates right? nah you didn't know that. you couldn't have. if you did know that then why would you bash the pilots who had nothing to do with it. we didn't vote on that rate. we didn't negotiate that rate. it was assigned to us. nothing we could do.

we have had 0 low time guys in the last few classes. we have however had several ata, fedex, skyway, and champion guys come here. but you wouldn't know anything about that either now would you.

tpersuit please do us ALL a favor and go away.. i hate having to think about you all the time!! HAHAHAHAHA...