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Old 05-27-2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by saabguy493
The Saab is less efficient than a CL65??? I am pretty sure passenger mile for mile cost, I think the Saab is still more efficient.
But if you're going to carry 50 pax, the saab needs to make TWO trips...there goes your efficiency advantage.

If there are enough pax to fill a larger airplane, the larger airplane is almost always more efficient. But since pax love frequency, we often operate multiple flights with smaller aircraft rather than one large airplane daily.

We are seeing the same thing with mainline...one 737 replacing 2-3 RJ's.

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Old 05-27-2008, 11:17 AM
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You can bet some of the Ole Farts on the SAAB are laying bricks. They have hung out on the Saab because they were either to dumb or lazy to learn a new aircraft. Well breakout the flash cards Boys.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by King Lear
You can bet some of the Ole Farts on the SAAB are laying bricks. They have hung out on the Saab because they were either to dumb or lazy to learn a new aircraft. Well breakout the flash cards Boys.
Are you kidding me?!?! If anything there are skills on a tprop that you could never build flying a jet! I chose to fly the saab because of the challenge. I know that I will be flying jets for alot of my career so what is the rush to get to one? The saab has been the best plane I have ever flown. I am not looking down on the jets, I am interviewing next week to fly one! It was a choice I made to fly the saab and one I will NEVER regret.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
But if you're going to carry 50 pax, the saab needs to make TWO trips...there goes your efficiency advantage.

If there are enough pax to fill a larger airplane, the larger airplane is almost always more efficient. But since pax love frequency, we often operate multiple flights with smaller aircraft rather than one large airplane daily.

We are seeing the same thing with mainline...one 737 replacing 2-3 RJ's.
Agreed. From by background at Colgan though, doing the EAS runs, we were either empty or only had about 5 people on a 34 seat aircraft. The only runs we had on the Airways side that were full were the Pittsburgh ones that got taken away late last year. For Colgan, the Saabs were irreplaceable. At Eagle, it looks as if it could be a different story.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by King Lear
You can bet some of the Ole Farts on the SAAB are laying bricks. They have hung out on the Saab because they were either to dumb or lazy to learn a new aircraft. Well breakout the flash cards Boys.

what a ridiculous comment. scheduling and location have nothing to do with it right???

too dumb to learn a new aircraft? imo all the newer airplanes are easier to learn and easier to fly.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by King Lear
You can bet some of the Ole Farts on the SAAB are laying bricks. They have hung out on the Saab because they were either to dumb or lazy to learn a new aircraft. Well breakout the flash cards Boys.
You're a clown.
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Hey don't diss a "Clown", they make more than most of us and they usually only work on Saturdays.
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
its sorta a trickle UP cycle....... I and some other on this board can remember when the companies or their predessors flew mainly 19 seat or ( smaller ) aircraft with some 30 seaters and 34 seaters thrown in.. Hell the ATR was the BIG mamma in those days. Those jetstreams and 1900's ( yes some still left ) are all but gone today... and the saab is just the next one on the block or so it would seem. Airlines have been getting bigger and bigger aircraft forever...... at ALL levels.........

The SAAB has been a great regional aircraft it will be sad to see it slip away over the next few years.
Let us not forget the Shorts 360 either.
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:43 PM
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it'll be interesting to see what happens with all those displaced pilots. you figure that with 23 saab's parking that's probably 120 pilots...it'll be interesting to see what those guys go and do. another thing to think of is all those check airman and instructors going back to the line that have like 300 years with the company.
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I believe:

If you can pass the AAL/AE physical, you can pass any airlines' medical check.

If you can understand the SF340 systems, you can learn any aircraft.

The V1 cut on the Saab requires a little more finesse than the barbie jets with the aft mounted turbofans...
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