50 seat RJ gones by 2013. Whats to come of this?
05-26-2008, 02:27 PM
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727drvr is right.... I was a card carrying member of APA Eagle.... unity... what a joke that was....
Scope caved at AA and every other carrier because the pilots looked down their collective noses at "comuters"...regionals...whatever you want to call it... they didnt want to fly small jets or BIG turboprops....they have "evolved" past aircraft that size .... and wanted more to fly them than the company would or could pay... hell AA pilots hated the F100 because they felt it was too small..and the pay as crap..... CA on the F100's made about 120000 a year in early 90's dollars... imagine that......and it wasnt enough.
round and round it goes and where it stops ....nobody knows.....
Scope caved at AA and every other carrier because the pilots looked down their collective noses at "comuters"...regionals...whatever you want to call it... they didnt want to fly small jets or BIG turboprops....they have "evolved" past aircraft that size .... and wanted more to fly them than the company would or could pay... hell AA pilots hated the F100 because they felt it was too small..and the pay as crap..... CA on the F100's made about 120000 a year in early 90's dollars... imagine that......and it wasnt enough.
round and round it goes and where it stops ....nobody knows.....
05-26-2008, 05:48 PM
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Air Wisconsin has a special place with the BAe-146. They are allowed those airframes or can be replaced 1-for-1, up to 18 airframes IIRC.
UAL and AWAC always had a different agreement. It's a long story and hopefully can be worked out for all involved.
There is the new RFP upon which AWAC is bidding. But the long-term success of that agreement is dependent upon the long-term success of UAL.
05-26-2008, 10:53 PM
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05-27-2008, 05:58 AM
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Air Wisconsin has a special place with the BAe-146. They are allowed those airframes or can be replaced 1-for-1, up to 18 airframes IIRC.
UAL and AWAC always had a different agreement. It's a long story and hopefully can be worked out for all involved.
There is the new RFP upon which AWAC is bidding. But the long-term success of that agreement is dependent upon the long-term success of UAL.
UAL and AWAC always had a different agreement. It's a long story and hopefully can be worked out for all involved.
There is the new RFP upon which AWAC is bidding. But the long-term success of that agreement is dependent upon the long-term success of UAL.
05-27-2008, 07:15 AM
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You are correct that AWAC no longer flies flights for United. You may be right that the 1-for-1 is no longer valid. I have heard it both ways.
Believe me, I am not a champion of larger and larger RJs going to contract carriers like AWAC. I'd much rather see them at mainline.
All I know is that AWAC is bidding on the RFP United has put out. The specifics are ultimately unknown.
Nothing is to be believed anyway until I am sitting in the airplane signing the release. Besides, it's only as good as the condition of United and that's a big question mark.
Believe me, I am not a champion of larger and larger RJs going to contract carriers like AWAC. I'd much rather see them at mainline.
All I know is that AWAC is bidding on the RFP United has put out. The specifics are ultimately unknown.
Nothing is to be believed anyway until I am sitting in the airplane signing the release. Besides, it's only as good as the condition of United and that's a big question mark.
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