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Old 04-16-2008, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Optimism is good, Lord knows everybody in this industry needs some...but how can one honestly say "As for financial trouble, we are fine" and "Fuel won't affect us as much as others" in the current environment?

In case it hasn't been made blatantly obvious in the past, I am 100% for Expressjet and really wish nothing but the best of success for your company and your pilot group.
I just don't get guys when they say stuff like this. I was pointing out the fact we hedged fuel at $2.40/gallon, for all of 2008, on all the flying that we have to pay for it. If this somehow doesn't help us, if we didn't hedge, please explain how. Last time I checked fuel was at $112/barrel, so if we didn't hedge at 70% we would be sitting in a much worse position.

I'm sorry, I don't believe in being pessimistic, because that will just drag the company down. As for just ignoring the truth of a company going down, I'm not advocating that either. When I state actual facts for XJT and you state we are in trouble and then state no facts to back it up? I'm sorry but you need to do a little better than that to prove your point.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:48 PM
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It's all in the SEC filings. And the recent Load Factor for March is part of the reason our stock has shot up this past week. Fuel won't affect us as much as others, we got a good guy in planning hedging right now.
At times I owned thousands of shares of XJT and I follow it closely. At not point has it shot up. Also look at the amount being traded on an average basis.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
At times I owned thousands of shares of XJT and I follow it closely. At not point has it shot up. Also look at the amount being traded on an average basis.
For someone who's followed XJT stock closely you should know that the March load factors were released 2 days ago and wouldn't show on a chart with a range of a full year.

I know you're the board troll, but don't be stupid.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
For someone who's followed XJT stock closely you should know that the March load factors were released 2 days ago and wouldn't show on a chart with a range of a full year.

I know you're the board troll, but don't be stupid.


Would a 5 day be better? 2 days makes all the difference in the world. Look at WM or BAC. Look at BIDU. There is no "jump" in stock price. Up 10 cents. Congrats. Now with the average daily volume of around $1mil being traded see how easy it is to dump those shares you just got rich off of. I'm not trying to be rude but lets not try and pass the kool-aid around offering drinks to others here or start personal attacks.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
At times I owned thousands of shares of XJT and I follow it closely. At not point has it shot up. Also look at the amount being traded on an average basis.
I said this past week. The stock is up 14% since Monday. I'm not talking about the past year. I was talking about our March Branded numbers.

As for the past month here are some more staggering numbers for you...
XJT: +44.3%
PNCL: -15.6%
RJET: -1.3%
MESA: -73.2%
SKYW: -7.7%
DAL: -10.2%
CAL: +4.8%

Now in a time where regional flying could be reduced by the majors, I like the fact we can somewhat have some leverage against CAL now. Please tell me again how your facts on XJT is not looking good since March, since that is what I was talking about.

I think XJT has done pretty well lately.



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Old 04-16-2008, 09:07 PM
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shall I continue Toilet?
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:13 PM
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shall I continue Toilet?
By all means please do I'm enjoying the show. Maybe one day you'll realize how percentages work. You showed me a month congrats. Where's the relevance? You're just picking an arbitrary length of time. I'll show you something staggering.



This is nothing against the pilots that work there as just about all that I've come across are very level headed. Seems like a few of you here, though, can drink kool-aid like no other. I don't think anyone's said the place isn't a great place to work and the management and people there aren't top notch. But it's as if you are trying to take us for fools when you try and sell us on the idea that things are going well. You can make any argument you want but it's just some offended grasp for some reason I can't tell. It's no secret I work at RAH and we're getting our flying cut just like everyone else. With the mergers going down I could be stuck as an FO for a nice long time. Our financial stability in the market could easily tumble if UAL and CAL merge since we fly the 170s for UAL but CAL scope prevents it. That means when contracts are up there could be no more 170s for UAL who's a major client.

Our hiring and training has slowed at a very alarming rate. No telling what the future holds. The difference between some of you guys and the rest of us is that we aren't in denial about what's going on. It's sad to watch really.

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Old 04-16-2008, 09:16 PM
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I find it humorous how these Express Jetters will stand up and defend their company and how great it is despite the fact it is crumbling beneath their feet.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
I find it humorous how these Express Jetters will stand up and defend their company and how great it is despite the fact it is crumbling beneath their feet.
...says the guy who was so out of touch that he just now posted about the COLAs. I find that most humorous.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
I find it humorous how these Express Jetters will stand up and defend their company and how great it is despite the fact it is crumbling beneath their feet.

I'm glad you just showed the true meaning behind you making this thread.

Let me bring everyone back to what you said initially...

Originally Posted by texaspilot76
A friend and former college buddy of mine informed me that some of our former graduates now employed by Express Jet that he keeps in touch with are concerned about furlough. Apparantly, Express Jet is in financial trouble and is considering asking employees for voluntary leaves of absence.

Since I heard this secondhand, can anyone elaborate on this?
Now it is obvious you just posted that to make it seem like XJT is in trouble. I present you guys with facts and you still have none, but to say "my friend told me of our former grads at XJT"...

After all that has happened in this industry over the past month and XJT stock has risen 44%, and you say "despite the fact it is crumbling beneath their feet." Wow!
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