Who else is happy?????
#141
Price
maybe a bit harsh but is it fair to bring down other guys who are here cause we want to be, happy to be here and not all "some 23 y.o. guy" that has no clue. I dont know about all the young guys or the guys that are doing because they love flying, but i know where ever you find one of those guys who complain because they think they have seen it all or been through it all and try to bring down the ones that have a smile on their faces when they show up to work is crap in my eyes.
What's the name of this thread???
There is another one to complain for all the "tired" ones out there, let us bask in our glory of accomplishing a dream, you live you learn you know... there are some that dont need 100K a year and some that can handle 20K for a year
What's the name of this thread???
There is another one to complain for all the "tired" ones out there, let us bask in our glory of accomplishing a dream, you live you learn you know... there are some that dont need 100K a year and some that can handle 20K for a year
Listening to others and learning about their perspective and opinions might burst your bubble of happiness but it also might get you to think about your future.
SkyHigh
#142
Older Self
Its not like your pay went down as you gained seniority bud...you know what you were getting yourself into, and if you have a family to think about, you should have thought about a different gig if its SO hard. So people do love the job and KNEW what they were about to be paid, dont justify your your brilliant decision or bash a young kid cause all you need is money. We're not going to get raises because people feel bad you're carrying extra baggage.
All of us are destined to become our parents one day. There is benefit, reason and purpose to the 9 to 5 life.
SkyHigh
#143
Sugar mamas
Rich parents, sugar mamas and "understanding" wives do not justify calling a flying career a profession. It is a working hobby unless you actually have to rely on the income it produces and live by the standard it provides.
Wives can only be understanding to the picture of the profession that the husband presents. Years later living the truth is not nearly so much fun for those left at home. People marry so that they can live a life together and to work on common goals (example: raising children). Being gone for more than half the year and then to have your days off while everyone else is at school or work is not living a life "with" your family ans leaves your spouse as a single parent.
SkyHigh
Wives can only be understanding to the picture of the profession that the husband presents. Years later living the truth is not nearly so much fun for those left at home. People marry so that they can live a life together and to work on common goals (example: raising children). Being gone for more than half the year and then to have your days off while everyone else is at school or work is not living a life "with" your family ans leaves your spouse as a single parent.
SkyHigh
#144
Stress and Happiness
In college I worked for several years as a convenience store clerk. During my shift I would read Flying Magazine and dream about being a rich airline pilot draped in hot and cold running chicks. Working as a clerk was almost like sitting in my own living room. I watched TV, did homework, read and slept. Occasionally a customer would come in. Mostly it was my friends and girls who would stop by to visit and flirt while pretending to shop.
Ten years later I received my first tax statement as a regional airline pilot. It was the same as what I made while working at the gas station, but I was not nearly as happy. As a pilot I had a huge stress load. I was lonely and tired all the time. My life was about line checks, grumpy captains, early get ups and stressing out over what kind of life hit I was going to take when the bid awards came out. There were few single girls about and my friends at that time were pilots as well and it was difficult to get together due to the highly scheduled chaos of an airline pilots life.
As a pilot in training I had a Delta Airlines DC-10 captain tell me that eh envied this old timer who lived in a bar in Billings Montana that he would frequent on layovers. The old man would come out of a back room where he also lived and sweep and wipe down the bar. By his slow movements and slight grin it was obvious that he had little stress and mostly did exactly what he wanted on his days off. By comparison this Delta captain had angry wives, ex-wives and girlfriends to deal with. He was late on paying his bills and had check airmen who were on his tail. In four bars his life was difficult, lonely and miserable while this lowly old man who only had a mop and broom in his command was able to mop in peace and happiness.
Looking back I was much happier during my time at the convenience store than I was as an airline pilot. I hoped that it would get better but it really didn't. At the time I thought that the Delta captain was crazy. Years later I began to understand.
SkyHigh
Ten years later I received my first tax statement as a regional airline pilot. It was the same as what I made while working at the gas station, but I was not nearly as happy. As a pilot I had a huge stress load. I was lonely and tired all the time. My life was about line checks, grumpy captains, early get ups and stressing out over what kind of life hit I was going to take when the bid awards came out. There were few single girls about and my friends at that time were pilots as well and it was difficult to get together due to the highly scheduled chaos of an airline pilots life.
As a pilot in training I had a Delta Airlines DC-10 captain tell me that eh envied this old timer who lived in a bar in Billings Montana that he would frequent on layovers. The old man would come out of a back room where he also lived and sweep and wipe down the bar. By his slow movements and slight grin it was obvious that he had little stress and mostly did exactly what he wanted on his days off. By comparison this Delta captain had angry wives, ex-wives and girlfriends to deal with. He was late on paying his bills and had check airmen who were on his tail. In four bars his life was difficult, lonely and miserable while this lowly old man who only had a mop and broom in his command was able to mop in peace and happiness.
Looking back I was much happier during my time at the convenience store than I was as an airline pilot. I hoped that it would get better but it really didn't. At the time I thought that the Delta captain was crazy. Years later I began to understand.
SkyHigh
Last edited by SkyHigh; 04-20-2008 at 08:54 AM.
#145
I am sure that most people expect to be at least a little bit miserable while at work. That is why it is called work in the first place. Accepting that fact is a part of growing up and of developing a work ethic. As a result most are well compensated for their sacrifices.
At 10 Million a year your attorney relative must have sacrificed and most likely will continue to do so. However he will only have to suffer for a short time in his life then he can retire well off to enjoy whatever he likes. As a pilot industry turmoil will insure that pilots will perpetually be miserable outside of the flight deck and will have to keep working well after the age of 65.
We get what we give. Choosing a career based on fun now will only serve to push the bill onto your later years.
SkyHigh
At 10 Million a year your attorney relative must have sacrificed and most likely will continue to do so. However he will only have to suffer for a short time in his life then he can retire well off to enjoy whatever he likes. As a pilot industry turmoil will insure that pilots will perpetually be miserable outside of the flight deck and will have to keep working well after the age of 65.
We get what we give. Choosing a career based on fun now will only serve to push the bill onto your later years.
SkyHigh
Whatever makes you feel good, or justify feeling bad I suppose. Rock on Wayne!
#146
Banned
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Studies have shown, that even people who win the lottery, though they experience a spike in "happiness", after 2-3 months they go back to their "normal state of happiness"
On a side note note it is the satisfaction you get from your career and your personal relationships with people that have the largest influence on a persons "happiness"
fact is, I would rather be miserable with money then without
On a side note note it is the satisfaction you get from your career and your personal relationships with people that have the largest influence on a persons "happiness"
fact is, I would rather be miserable with money then without
#149
It is important to take stock of the cost your "happiness" demands. One day you might regret not being more proactive in regards to being an advocate for your own self preservation.
Listening to others and learning about their perspective and opinions might burst your bubble of happiness but it also might get you to think about your future.
SkyHigh
Listening to others and learning about their perspective and opinions might burst your bubble of happiness but it also might get you to think about your future.
SkyHigh
Sorry mighty wise man, your just another on my list of guys who have layed advice out on the table for me, thanks but no thanks brother, i do look out for myself, hance no kids of my own yet and no complaints at this point and i do just fine in planning ahead.
I appreciate the effort son, but thanks anyways
#150
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Heavies
Posts: 1,414
Oh no you didn't......... and PS I am cut off.. I pay a lot of bills smarty
and half-way decent... that is real nice too
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