Who else is happy?????
04-18-2008, 09:26 PM
#121
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 245
[QUOTE] Anyone who throws away the dollars to become a pilot needs to make real money in order to justify the investment. At least a doctor can say that they are "just barely afloat" as you mentioned. Most Pilots are getting use to taking a loss. [QUOTE]
In other words, find that SUGAR MAMA!! Hahaha
ARL
In other words, find that SUGAR MAMA!! Hahaha
ARL
04-18-2008, 09:59 PM
#122
Thuggin it out
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Rollin' Down tha 405
Posts: 2,567
I know I'm coming into this thread late but here's what I've done the last month of my life as a newbie:
I have flown for AA Connection, UAX and US Express.
I have been all over the the midwest and east coast.
I have overnighted and NOT slept in the hotel room.
I have flown an airplane that I have wanted to fly for a long time.
I have watched the sunrise and sunset from FL370.
I have seen shooting stars and the milky-way
I have cracked jokes with center controllers just like I heard the "big boy's" doing when I was flying GA.
I've flown with the coolest people I have ever met.
I love this job.
I have flown for AA Connection, UAX and US Express.
I have been all over the the midwest and east coast.
I have overnighted and NOT slept in the hotel room.
I have flown an airplane that I have wanted to fly for a long time.
I have watched the sunrise and sunset from FL370.
I have seen shooting stars and the milky-way
I have cracked jokes with center controllers just like I heard the "big boy's" doing when I was flying GA.
I've flown with the coolest people I have ever met.
I love this job.
04-18-2008, 10:07 PM
#123
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
Posts: 3,732
I know I'm coming into this thread late but here's what I've done the last month of my life as a newbie:
I have flown for AA Connection, UAX and US Express.
I have been all over the the midwest and east coast.
I have overnighted and NOT slept in the hotel room.
I have flown an airplane that I have wanted to fly for a long time.
I have watched the sunrise and sunset from FL370.
I have seen shooting stars and the milky-way
I have cracked jokes with center controllers just like I heard the "big boy's" doing when I was flying GA.
I've flown with the coolest people I have ever met.
I love this job.
I have flown for AA Connection, UAX and US Express.
I have been all over the the midwest and east coast.
I have overnighted and NOT slept in the hotel room.
I have flown an airplane that I have wanted to fly for a long time.
I have watched the sunrise and sunset from FL370.
I have seen shooting stars and the milky-way
I have cracked jokes with center controllers just like I heard the "big boy's" doing when I was flying GA.
I've flown with the coolest people I have ever met.
I love this job.
Now the reality of it, YOU ARE PAID TOO LITTLE FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO ENJOY ALL THOSE THINGS.
Last edited by dojetdriver; 04-18-2008 at 10:21 PM.
04-19-2008, 06:09 AM
#124
Self Employed.
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
I also have quoted Maslow's Hierarchy Needs before. No matter how fun a job or activity is if you are not receiving the basics, like being able to pay your bills or time at home with your family, you will not be happy.
As a younger person 20K and a life on the road might be fine but people and needs change over time. Aviation is becoming increasingly inconsistent with being able to insure that a persons needs will be met.
As for myself I have often thought that if I was able to have reached my career goals by 26 then perhaps I would not have been so burned out and miserable by 36. I spent most of a decade and a half trying to get to someplace that paid me enough to survive, gave me enough time at home with my friends and family and had enough advancement so that I did not get discouraged.
I gave my career a lot and got little in return. The breaks just were not in the cards for me and for most of my friends. Professional aviation happiness depends a lot on outside factors that you have little control over. No matter how much fun a job is if your basic needs are not being met then you will not be happy.
SkyHigh
I also have quoted Maslow's Hierarchy Needs before. No matter how fun a job or activity is if you are not receiving the basics, like being able to pay your bills or time at home with your family, you will not be happy.
As a younger person 20K and a life on the road might be fine but people and needs change over time. Aviation is becoming increasingly inconsistent with being able to insure that a persons needs will be met.
As for myself I have often thought that if I was able to have reached my career goals by 26 then perhaps I would not have been so burned out and miserable by 36. I spent most of a decade and a half trying to get to someplace that paid me enough to survive, gave me enough time at home with my friends and family and had enough advancement so that I did not get discouraged.
I gave my career a lot and got little in return. The breaks just were not in the cards for me and for most of my friends. Professional aviation happiness depends a lot on outside factors that you have little control over. No matter how much fun a job is if your basic needs are not being met then you will not be happy.
SkyHigh
04-19-2008, 04:36 PM
#125
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: NA-265-80
Posts: 94
I know I'm coming into this thread late but here's what I've done the last month of my life as a newbie:
I have flown for AA Connection, UAX and US Express.
I have been all over the the midwest and east coast.
I have overnighted and NOT slept in the hotel room.
I have flown an airplane that I have wanted to fly for a long time.
I have watched the sunrise and sunset from FL370.
I have seen shooting stars and the milky-way
I have cracked jokes with center controllers just like I heard the "big boy's" doing when I was flying GA.
I've flown with the coolest people I have ever met.
I love this job.
I have flown for AA Connection, UAX and US Express.
I have been all over the the midwest and east coast.
I have overnighted and NOT slept in the hotel room.
I have flown an airplane that I have wanted to fly for a long time.
I have watched the sunrise and sunset from FL370.
I have seen shooting stars and the milky-way
I have cracked jokes with center controllers just like I heard the "big boy's" doing when I was flying GA.
I've flown with the coolest people I have ever met.
I love this job.
04-19-2008, 04:46 PM
#126
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 490
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
I also have quoted Maslow's Hierarchy Needs before. No matter how fun a job or activity is if you are not receiving the basics, like being able to pay your bills or time at home with your family, you will not be happy.
As a younger person 20K and a life on the road might be fine but people and needs change over time. Aviation is becoming increasingly inconsistent with being able to insure that a persons needs will be met.
As for myself I have often thought that if I was able to have reached my career goals by 26 then perhaps I would not have been so burned out and miserable by 36. I spent most of a decade and a half trying to get to someplace that paid me enough to survive, gave me enough time at home with my friends and family and had enough advancement so that I did not get discouraged.
I gave my career a lot and got little in return. The breaks just were not in the cards for me and for most of my friends. Professional aviation happiness depends a lot on outside factors that you have little control over. No matter how much fun a job is if your basic needs are not being met then you will not be happy.
SkyHigh
I also have quoted Maslow's Hierarchy Needs before. No matter how fun a job or activity is if you are not receiving the basics, like being able to pay your bills or time at home with your family, you will not be happy.
As a younger person 20K and a life on the road might be fine but people and needs change over time. Aviation is becoming increasingly inconsistent with being able to insure that a persons needs will be met.
As for myself I have often thought that if I was able to have reached my career goals by 26 then perhaps I would not have been so burned out and miserable by 36. I spent most of a decade and a half trying to get to someplace that paid me enough to survive, gave me enough time at home with my friends and family and had enough advancement so that I did not get discouraged.
I gave my career a lot and got little in return. The breaks just were not in the cards for me and for most of my friends. Professional aviation happiness depends a lot on outside factors that you have little control over. No matter how much fun a job is if your basic needs are not being met then you will not be happy.
SkyHigh
04-19-2008, 06:40 PM
#127
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: NA-265-80
Posts: 94
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
I also have quoted Maslow's Hierarchy Needs before. No matter how fun a job or activity is if you are not receiving the basics, like being able to pay your bills or time at home with your family, you will not be happy.
As a younger person 20K and a life on the road might be fine but people and needs change over time. Aviation is becoming increasingly inconsistent with being able to insure that a persons needs will be met.
As for myself I have often thought that if I was able to have reached my career goals by 26 then perhaps I would not have been so burned out and miserable by 36. I spent most of a decade and a half trying to get to someplace that paid me enough to survive, gave me enough time at home with my friends and family and had enough advancement so that I did not get discouraged.
I gave my career a lot and got little in return. The breaks just were not in the cards for me and for most of my friends. Professional aviation happiness depends a lot on outside factors that you have little control over. No matter how much fun a job is if your basic needs are not being met then you will not be happy.
SkyHigh
I also have quoted Maslow's Hierarchy Needs before. No matter how fun a job or activity is if you are not receiving the basics, like being able to pay your bills or time at home with your family, you will not be happy.
As a younger person 20K and a life on the road might be fine but people and needs change over time. Aviation is becoming increasingly inconsistent with being able to insure that a persons needs will be met.
As for myself I have often thought that if I was able to have reached my career goals by 26 then perhaps I would not have been so burned out and miserable by 36. I spent most of a decade and a half trying to get to someplace that paid me enough to survive, gave me enough time at home with my friends and family and had enough advancement so that I did not get discouraged.
I gave my career a lot and got little in return. The breaks just were not in the cards for me and for most of my friends. Professional aviation happiness depends a lot on outside factors that you have little control over. No matter how much fun a job is if your basic needs are not being met then you will not be happy.
SkyHigh
I've been very fortunate. My wife recently supported my decision to return to regional flying, knowing what I was getting myself into. I've been there, done that for the last 15 years. Cargo, charter, 121, office jobs, awesome pay in another industry, etc. Fortunately I can afford to do this now and have some fun with the support of my family. It's not about the money for me, since I still have other income to pay the bills thank God. The love of flying pulled me back into this endeavor.
I might be living on this "pink cloud" for now... and I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts!
04-20-2008, 04:44 AM
#128
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
Skyhigh, you are so right about the outside factors that we have so little control over. Each of us has to search out the best path, in regard to our quality of life, career aspirations, and most importantly, FAMILY.
I've been very fortunate. My wife recently supported my decision to return to regional flying, knowing what I was getting myself into. I've been there, done that for the last 15 years. Cargo, charter, 121, office jobs, awesome pay in another industry, etc. Fortunately I can afford to do this now and have some fun with the support of my family. It's not about the money for me, since I still have other income to pay the bills thank God. The love of flying pulled me back into this endeavor.
I might be living on this "pink cloud" for now... and I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts!
I've been very fortunate. My wife recently supported my decision to return to regional flying, knowing what I was getting myself into. I've been there, done that for the last 15 years. Cargo, charter, 121, office jobs, awesome pay in another industry, etc. Fortunately I can afford to do this now and have some fun with the support of my family. It's not about the money for me, since I still have other income to pay the bills thank God. The love of flying pulled me back into this endeavor.
I might be living on this "pink cloud" for now... and I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts!
.I am happy, doesn't mean I am not going to do what I can to improve the industry, its the guys that say, "I was never in this for the money, I don't care what I make, if I wanted to be rich I would be a DR blah blah blah"
04-20-2008, 05:03 AM
#129
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: NA-265-80
Posts: 94
Yes, I'm with you on that SAAB. We all need to do whatever we can to improve this level of the profession. Sure it's not all about the money but considering what we all have invested, there needs to be an adequate return.
Just to give you a little background where I'm coming from since I'm new on the forum... Did the civilian route from fueling boy up to 121 airline heavy equipment, and I made a great living working for FlightSafety and SimuFlite when I decided how much I missed flying outside of contract trips and renting a 172.
Maybe I'm outta my mind for jumping back in, but when it's in your blood... you know how it goes.
Just to give you a little background where I'm coming from since I'm new on the forum... Did the civilian route from fueling boy up to 121 airline heavy equipment, and I made a great living working for FlightSafety and SimuFlite when I decided how much I missed flying outside of contract trips and renting a 172.
Maybe I'm outta my mind for jumping back in, but when it's in your blood... you know how it goes.
04-20-2008, 05:07 AM
#130
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
Yes, I'm with you on that SAAB. We all need to do whatever we can to improve this level of the profession. Sure it's not all about the money but considering what we all have invested, there needs to be an adequate return.
Just to give you a little background where I'm coming from since I'm new on the forum... Did the civilian route from fueling boy up to 121 airline heavy equipment, and I made a great living working for FlightSafety and SimuFlite when I decided how much I missed flying outside of contract trips and renting a 172.
Maybe I'm outta my mind for jumping back in, but when it's in your blood... you know how it goes.
Just to give you a little background where I'm coming from since I'm new on the forum... Did the civilian route from fueling boy up to 121 airline heavy equipment, and I made a great living working for FlightSafety and SimuFlite when I decided how much I missed flying outside of contract trips and renting a 172.
Maybe I'm outta my mind for jumping back in, but when it's in your blood... you know how it goes.
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