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Old 03-30-2008, 06:20 AM
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I was researching the 1st yr FO pay and for all those who knock Gojet pilots,
1st yr Gojet FO's are getting paid the most out of all the regionals. Maybe that's why some don't like them......they make more than you!
Yep. Thats exactly why.
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by soldierboy
I was researching the 1st yr FO pay and for all those who knock Gojet pilots,
1st yr Gojet FO's are getting paid the most out of all the regionals. Maybe that's why some don't like them......they make more than you!
Are you kidding me? Quit trolling this thread. Second, they are not the highest paying regional. Give me a break.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:39 AM
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I was researching the 1st yr FO pay and for all those who knock Gojet pilots,
1st yr Gojet FO's are getting paid the most out of all the regionals. Maybe that's why some don't like them......they make more than you!
They can use the extra dollar an hour to buy friends, as that's what they'll be losing when working for gojet...
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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
Not until reregulation .you want a raise then start pushing for it .

Come to think about it...he's right!!


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Originally Posted by soldierboy
I was researching the 1st yr FO pay and for all those who knock Gojet pilots,
1st yr Gojet FO's are getting paid the most out of all the regionals. Maybe that's why some don't like them......they make more than you!
Ignorance is bliss and stupidity lasts forever.

Are you even a 121 pilot? Your comment tells all us that you are not seeing you obviously have no clue how our pay is structured.

As harsh as this may sound I mean you no personal offense but your ignorance on the subject needs to be corrected. There are many things that make up our pay and an hourly rate is only about 25% of it. Also a pay rate won't make up for the lack of respect you'll get, from the industry, for being employed by an "alter-ego" airline that shafted the TSA pilot group. Sadly, GoJetr’s better have a seat in the back because they’re not welcome in my jumpseat and they are the only pilot group that I will deny the actual too. Everyone else is more than welcome and I look forward to giving you a ride.

And BTW, first year only lasts one year but going to GoJet is a mistake that will last the rest of your life.

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Old 03-30-2008, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by soldierboy
I was researching the 1st yr FO pay and for all those who knock Gojet pilots,
1st yr Gojet FO's are getting paid the most out of all the regionals. Maybe that's why some don't like them......they make more than you!
If that's case, it's because that is the only way they can get people to consider working for them.

I can tell you EXACTLY why people don't like them, and it's not related to first year pay.
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
I'm made over $160,000 last year as a sixth year F/O.
Where's that, NetJets?
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Old 03-31-2008, 06:16 AM
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We're worth what we're willing to work for... bottom line. If we accept garbage wages, then that's what we'll get, i.e. if a pilot is willing to work for $20 an hour, then that's what their time is worth to them. Unfortunately it sets the standard and it becomes what we're all worth in the eyes of the business; because if you won't take the job, then as proven, someone else will...

As the old expression goes, "employers will pay just enough to keep the employees from quitting, employees will work just hard enough not to get fired."

As previous posters have noted, the only way to change/ increase the pay in this industry is for pilots to collectively stand together and do something about it; power in numbers, unions (that's why they exist) etc. Divided we fall; simple enough. And without action, things stay as they are or get worse... Corporate America is about making money. They don't care about you or your family. They just want to increase their bottom line by decreasing their overhead costs. Unfortunately in the business sense, the pilot community is the only real family each other has got. I think the sooner the pilot community embraces that fact and treats each other accordingly, the better.

Bottom line: as long as the pilot community as a whole remains divided, individual, self centered, however you want to put it, (i.e. individuals willing to work for dirt at the detriment of everyone else because they want job security at the expense of others) then ALL pilots lose in the long run...

and "the man" will continue to call the shots.
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Pilot pay has been on constant decline since aviation first became an industry. Mail carrier pilots were paid the equivalent of $1,000,000 per year in inflation adjusted dollars. I don't see any reason why the slide won't continue. Flying is increasingly easier and less dangerous with all the new technology available.
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:16 AM
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if a pilot is willing to work for $20 an hour, then that's what their time is worth to them.


I agree 100 percent with this statement but there is not a regional pilot out there that didnt at one time accept these wages.....the only way things will change is for every regional pilot to walk off the job at the same time.

You can't hang it on the guys NOW to look elsewhere for employement when YOU took the job at twenty an hour several years ago.
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