New EMB-120 destinations offered by SKW through UAL

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03-30-2008, 07:45 AM

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cole

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For you Skywest guys, are all the bros going away? What about service to SBP/SMX will you eventually put a CRJ on those routes?
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03-30-2008, 08:27 AM

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rickair7777

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Originally Posted by cole

For you Skywest guys, are all the bros going away? What about service to SBP/SMX will you eventually put a CRJ on those routes?
Thanks

THe UAL bros are supposed to be all going. The west-coast flying will go to jets, and some small towns may well be dropped. The jet goes to SBP now...but it's a 200, and it barely fits on the taxiways.

No word on the DAL bros in SLC, but once the UAX birds are gone, the training and Mx overhead on those remaining planes will be pretty high. I think their long-term propsects aren't good.

03-30-2008, 09:15 AM

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JetJock16

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

None of this will completely happen for A LONG TIME. SKW, if and when they discontinue the Bro all together, will find a replacement. It's just too much of a “cash cow” and more so than the CR2/7/9 ever could or will be. As far as when we might see the Bro aggressively start disappearing? We have a schedule now but it only calls for 18 of our, at one point in time, 62 Bro's with 4 in addition being pulled from the UAL flying and added to SLC’s “at-risk” new destinations. The other 44 (which is all that we are currently staffed to operate) have no retirement schedule but I would expect them to SLOWLY continue their retirement with most of them being gone by 2011. Why 2011? That's when the leases on the SIM’s and FTD are up and it make sense to get rid of them, but look for SKW to being in the Q3 or some other T-Prop “cash cow” they can use on their small market "at-risk" flying that’s not as restricted as the Bro and offers more seats at a low operating cost.

JMO plus 2 cents add in a little business sense combined with some facts.

And BTW, SBP is a DAL CR2 route to the best of my knowledge, not a UAL and is flown from SLC.

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Originally Posted by cole

For you Skywest guys, are all the bros going away? What about service to SBP/SMX will you eventually put a CRJ on those routes?
Thanks

The jet’s not a replacement for the Bro………………..period.

Last edited by JetJock16; 03-30-2008 at 10:40 AM.

03-30-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JetJock16

Maybe someone else can chime in but back when I flew the Bro we didn't have to do anything special. The only addition to the a/c as far as icing goes is the "Comair Box" but that was installed years ago and as long as you stayed above 170 KIAS you're fine. I've flown it in some pretty bad icing and it did just fine.

Yeah, increase in ref if you're in icing conditions. Above 24,000# or around that area, the go around torque is such that an apu start is required. oh, and certain weights do not have a flaps 25 ice ref speed so el capitan has to do a flaps 45 ILS. hah, sucker. The flaps 45 ref speeds are pretty high. they can be reaaly close to the flaps 45 extension speed so i'm sure flap overspeeds might occur. speed speed.