50 seater = welfare?
03-24-2008, 04:40 PM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320
Posts: 1,316
If that is per engine, yeah I would say so. On the -700 up at 370/.82 we tend to indicate about 1800 per engine/total 3600 per hr if I remember correctly. I have no clue what ATR's, Q's, and 1900's burn and where they relate to the RJ's. Wow! Totally Hijacked this thread.....Oooopppss
03-24-2008, 05:29 PM
#32
Gets EVERY weekend off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: SIC
Posts: 1,367
a 145 cruising @ FL370 will typically burn 1200 lbs/hr/eng, so 2500 lbs/hr total is pretty accurate, the key is getting up there. Differences in fuel burn between FL300-FL370 is somewhat significant.
03-24-2008, 06:01 PM
#33
Banned
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 698
This isn't too accurate, but close enough to prove the point why the 50 seater can't die. The Speeds aren't too different, but you can see that even with 70 passengers on board it still is the same if not more per passenger. If the market can only sustain a 50 seater than a 70 seater would lose a ton more money.
EMB-145XR - 50 passengers
.80 MACH
2500 lbs/hr
50 lbs/passenger
-700 - 70 passengers
.82 MACH
3600 lbs/hr
51.5 lbs/passenger
03-24-2008, 06:38 PM
#34
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: retired
Posts: 645
My settlements exactly. If we'all didn't fly jets at the regional level, those routes and airplanes would be at the majors, we'dall be working for the majors, chicks chasing us and our fat wallets down the concourse....
03-24-2008, 06:54 PM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: 737 Right
Posts: 955
03-25-2008, 05:28 AM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
Posts: 1,434
What if?
This realization has come as oil went from $40 a barrel 7 years ago to $100-$110.
So since this country has no energy policy...nothing is going to stop oil from hitting $150 in the next 6-7 years. So what do the majors do then?
Right now they still haven't raised ticket prices enough, so I'm wondering if anything smaller than a 777 will be considered a gas hog????
Sorry for the drift.
So since this country has no energy policy...nothing is going to stop oil from hitting $150 in the next 6-7 years. So what do the majors do then?
Right now they still haven't raised ticket prices enough, so I'm wondering if anything smaller than a 777 will be considered a gas hog????
Sorry for the drift.
03-25-2008, 06:35 AM
#37
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 1,454
But how often do we get up to 370 in the RJs?? Not very often. Especially in the northeast, and short hops in the midwest, like we do with our E135s out of CVG. The only way the 50 seat RJs will be efficient is on long, skinny routes to secondary airports, where the load factors don't warrant a 70 seater. Keep in mind too that for the 70 seater, the crew generally gets paid more as well (higher Capt, senior FO pay, and 2 FAs vs 1 on the 50 seater).
03-25-2008, 07:17 AM
#38
*********
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,068
The dash-200 burns 1300 lbs/hr at FL250 (600-650 lbs/hr per engine). At least that's what our cruise performance charts give us, at around 275 KTS TAS.
03-25-2008, 07:36 AM
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 112
If this is true when will they begin interviewing again and when would one expect a class date? I know a couple of guys that interviewed in Nov. and Dec. 07 and were told to expect a class date in April. They havn't heard a thing from HR since.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
