Arbitrator ruling on Pinnacle/Colgan
03-25-2008, 10:06 AM
#32
Kept down by the man
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Why does it seem that just about EVERY thread out there right now talking about anything have to do with work rules, QOL, pay, or anything about a regional always has to come back to someone from XJET bashing them? Quit dragging threads off topic!! Every regional has its place, and all of them need pilots. Just because one doesnt have the same lifestyle/qol/pay as yours doesnt mean its bad.
And if you want to be mad at someone, dont be mad at the regional. If I understand it correctly it is essentially the mainline company that decides who gets the routes. If you get this upset about this kind of stuff its probably time you get out of this field and move on.... Dont ruin it for the rest of us...
And if you want to be mad at someone, dont be mad at the regional. If I understand it correctly it is essentially the mainline company that decides who gets the routes. If you get this upset about this kind of stuff its probably time you get out of this field and move on.... Dont ruin it for the rest of us...
03-25-2008, 11:47 AM
#33
Banned
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Why does it seem that just about EVERY thread out there right now talking about anything have to do with work rules, QOL, pay, or anything about a regional always has to come back to someone from XJET bashing them? Quit dragging threads off topic!! Every regional has its place, and all of them need pilots. Just because one doesnt have the same lifestyle/qol/pay as yours doesnt mean its bad.
And if you want to be mad at someone, dont be mad at the regional. If I understand it correctly it is essentially the mainline company that decides who gets the routes. If you get this upset about this kind of stuff its probably time you get out of this field and move on.... Dont ruin it for the rest of us...
And if you want to be mad at someone, dont be mad at the regional. If I understand it correctly it is essentially the mainline company that decides who gets the routes. If you get this upset about this kind of stuff its probably time you get out of this field and move on.... Dont ruin it for the rest of us...
secondly It does matter when regional airlines have poor QOL and low pay. Every contract looks to "up" the current best one, yet if all the contracts are terrible, what do we as a pilot group have to base our requirements on for a good contract when we go to management??????, especially in Section 6 (Money). You can look at regionals all you want as a stepping stone, but look how short-lived this "mini-hiring" boom was at the majors...........You never know how long you will be at a company, you might as well make it tolerable
03-25-2008, 12:06 PM
#34
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First of all, INDY Blows Giants are the champions,
secondly It does matter when regional airlines have poor QOL and low pay. Every contract looks to "up" the current best one, yet if all the contracts are terrible, what do we as a pilot group have to base our requirements on for a good contract when we go to management??????, especially in Section 6 (Money). You can look at regionals all you want as a stepping stone, but look how short-lived this "mini-hiring" boom was at the majors...........You never know how long you will be at a company, you might as well make it tolerable
secondly It does matter when regional airlines have poor QOL and low pay. Every contract looks to "up" the current best one, yet if all the contracts are terrible, what do we as a pilot group have to base our requirements on for a good contract when we go to management??????, especially in Section 6 (Money). You can look at regionals all you want as a stepping stone, but look how short-lived this "mini-hiring" boom was at the majors...........You never know how long you will be at a company, you might as well make it tolerable
And dont think im just bashing XJETers... If they were hiring I definitely would apply there... I have nothing against the company. in fact my friend who works for XJET highly recommends it.....
03-25-2008, 01:04 PM
#35
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Posts: 698
I agree with everything you said.... (and I was VERY happy that the giants won the SB)... what I am saying is that quite a few XJETers out there seem to want to put down everyone else when people are asking for honest and good information on ONLY THE COMPANY THEY ASKED ABOUT. Dont compare them to any others. If you dont work for the company dont give negative information cause all you have is opinion and hearsay. If you DO work for the company give your honest opinion. Some of us want to make a REAL informed decision and are sick of hearing comments from the peanut gallery in the meantime....
And dont think im just bashing XJETers... If they were hiring I definitely would apply there... I have nothing against the company. in fact my friend who works for XJET highly recommends it.....
And dont think im just bashing XJETers... If they were hiring I definitely would apply there... I have nothing against the company. in fact my friend who works for XJET highly recommends it.....
One guy stated it was totally fine for a 70-seater to replace our 50-seater, with lower paid pilots, because it was a turbo-prop and not a jet. Didn't know the Majors never flew props before.
03-25-2008, 01:33 PM
#36
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First of all, INDY Blows Giants are the champions,
secondly It does matter when regional airlines have poor QOL and low pay. Every contract looks to "up" the current best one, yet if all the contracts are terrible, what do we as a pilot group have to base our requirements on for a good contract when we go to management??????, especially in Section 6 (Money). You can look at regionals all you want as a stepping stone, but look how short-lived this "mini-hiring" boom was at the majors...........You never know how long you will be at a company, you might as well make it tolerable
secondly It does matter when regional airlines have poor QOL and low pay. Every contract looks to "up" the current best one, yet if all the contracts are terrible, what do we as a pilot group have to base our requirements on for a good contract when we go to management??????, especially in Section 6 (Money). You can look at regionals all you want as a stepping stone, but look how short-lived this "mini-hiring" boom was at the majors...........You never know how long you will be at a company, you might as well make it tolerable
03-25-2008, 02:31 PM
#37
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Posts: 698
Do those 5-6 days a week job require a $80,000 down payment?
Is your career always in jeopardy for many different things that could cause you to lose it?
If you break your wrist could you still keep working?
If your eyesight goes bad do you lose your job?
If you get a DUI, do you get fired?
If you fail a check ride, which you have to take at least once every year do you get fired?
If you get fired for one of these reasons, can you ever do that job ever again?
Want me to go on?
03-25-2008, 02:40 PM
#38
Kept down by the man
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03-25-2008, 03:17 PM
#40
Gets Off to Weekends
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 649
Not any time soon.
Man... I should have gotten all A's in school so I can fly a jet.
