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03-26-2008, 01:10 PM
#52
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Working for Hulas was an educated decision. He thinks he will upgrade quick and get out. I sincerely hope it happens and he doesn't get stuck... that would suck bad. Being stuck at TSA in the right seat would be even worse, but they told him upgrades were 1.5 years or less so something like that could never happen... never has and never will! 
MEC members attended a joint fee for departure meeting in St. Louis, Missouri. Elected leaders from 12 ALPA regional carriers to include: Air Canada Jazz, American Eagle, Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Champion, Comair, Express Jet, Mesa Air Group, Mesaba, Piedmont, Pinnacle, PSA, and Trans States Airlines met to discuss strategies for protecting jobs and building careers at regional airlines.
One of the major issues facing all regional pilots is management's game of musical airplanes. Their game of moving aircraft from one carrier to another at the expense of pilots' lifestyles and careers must be challenged. Solutions must be found that
will address these and other job security issues facing regional pilots.
Imagine that, we are working with your airlines.
This is what is bringing down the industry. Managements ability to do what they want. And as long as all pilots are not unified as one collective union, they will continue to do so. Believe me, I feel I should be getting paid more than this, and I'm fighting for that. You guys need to stop attacking your fellow pilots. You speak of us as if we are GoJet. You guys make me sick. Last edited by flyinaway411; 03-26-2008 at 01:32 PM.
03-26-2008, 02:55 PM
#53
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So you all have proved your point that TSA's EXPIRED contract is crap. But thats the point. It's expired! It's been expired for 2 YEARS! And we're still working under it! And guess what? We'll probably be working under it for 2 more years! Why? Because this pilot group is tired of being abused and underpaid! Because the VAST majority of this group will REFUSE to settle just to get a current contract. In no way will this group work for free just to get more planes. Have we forgotten why trans states isn't flying 700's?
Just a little clarification. Our contracts original effective period was August 1, 2000 to July 31, 2004. The reason we still have it is because our previous MEC signed a two year extension (caved in). 26 months of negotiations thus far have netted us 50% of our sections TA-ed. Hopefully, the next vars message is good news.
03-26-2008, 03:27 PM
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Just a little clarification. Our contracts original effective period was August 1, 2000 to July 31, 2004. The reason we still have it is because our previous MEC signed a two year extension (caved in). 26 months of negotiations thus far have netted us 50% of our sections TA-ed. Hopefully, the next vars message is good news.
03-26-2008, 05:41 PM
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Honest question for ya... I probably have my info mixed up.
I was under the impression that TSA was never even offered the 700's due to some sort of scope clause so HK created GoJet (please don't let this de-rail into a GoJet thread!) to get around the scope.
I was under the impression that TSA was never even offered the 700's due to some sort of scope clause so HK created GoJet (please don't let this de-rail into a GoJet thread!) to get around the scope.
03-26-2008, 05:53 PM
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unification... low end or high end?
I agree that being unified as pilots across company lines is a very positive thing...
So should we be unified at the level of your contract or ours? Remember our contract is better because we as a pilot group (not talking about the present but pilots groups of the past... you and i are not included in this point) remained unified. From this side it seems unification would be hard since I am constantly worried about the longevity of my job because I make too much money for my company to win an RFP. How is unification possible when I fear the only way to have any security is undercutting the next guy? I completely support any pilot group in their quest against management, but I also strongly believe in keeping people from going somewhere that they will be abused and help the continuation of this rat race to the bottom.
03-26-2008, 05:55 PM
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03-26-2008, 06:49 PM
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groovin, if you didn't know the previous statement by Grossole before you made the comments that you did, then i'd recommend doing your homework before making accusations in which you belittle a group of individuals that you should consider your peers and comrades.
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