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Old 03-14-2008, 06:42 AM
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You guys with CRJ-200/700 experience. Is the 700 a lot better about not being overweight? I ask because I got on no problem on the 700, but hear complaints about the 200..
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If you can get in touch with the flight crew you stand a pretty good chance of getting on, unless the airplane is overweight to the point of pulling bags. It seems like gate agents often go out of their way to let you know the plane is full, and you're not getting on. I'm pretty sure they get points for bumping the most pilots - added points for bumping the competition crews. If it's YOUR company's flight and/or YOUR company's ground handling you should be ok. I've been compelled many times to reach over the counter and manhandle an agent or two (SYX GRR, r.i.p.) but ALWAYS keep your cool. Know your boarding priority code and be prepared to regulate. NWA may not have the greatest agents, but you have to get a signature from the CA so it takes the bitter anti-pilot agents out of the loop
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:58 AM
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i'll answer the origional question now....the CRJ 200 isn't a great airplane to jumpseat on, but it's definately better than many. if there is an alternate, the extra fuel may push the weight limits over the max or it could push the CG too far forward. personally, i have had to leave a jumpseater only twice in my 2 glorious years in the CRJ, and i've been bumped only a couple of times myself.

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Old 03-14-2008, 07:22 AM
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CRJ 700/900 are much less likely to be weight restricted. The CRJ200 comes in real close a lot, but you can usually fudge the numbers. Full boat with alternate fuel is where the numbers sometimes can't be made to work.
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Originally Posted by FLAK
If you can get in touch with the flight crew you stand a pretty good chance of getting on, unless the airplane is overweight to the point of pulling bags. It seems like gate agents often go out of their way to let you know the plane is full, and you're not getting on. I'm pretty sure they get points for bumping the most pilots - added points for bumping the competition crews. If it's YOUR company's flight and/or YOUR company's ground handling you should be ok. I've been compelled many times to reach over the counter and manhandle an agent or two (SYX GRR, r.i.p.) but ALWAYS keep your cool. Know your boarding priority code and be prepared to regulate. NWA may not have the greatest agents, but you have to get a signature from the CA so it takes the bitter anti-pilot agents out of the loop
Funny, the only time I've ever run into trouble is with my own company...in my own domicile. Ever other single gate agent I've run into, company or competition, has been phenomenal.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:10 AM
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I'm able to get the jumpseater on about 90% of the time in the 200 and I don't recall ever having to turn one down on the 700/900 but it can happen. Having an alternate in the 200 makes it tough
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:15 AM
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Alot of times it depends on the carrier in which you are trying to jumpseat. I may be incorrect, but doesn't pinnacle and other carriers have gate agents and or dispatch do the weight and balance by hand? At AWAC its done by the crew and its automated at that so its easy for us to get people on because we just push a few buttons. Like everyone before me said, you got to get in touch with the crew. The 8 dollar an hour gate agent is not going to want to re-do the math to get a jumpseater on at the last minute.
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:06 AM
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My last experience on the jumpseat went like this.......I listed on a noon flight out of XXXX airport. When I arrived at the gate to get my JS pass, I noticed that there was a company aircraft waiting for pushback (not the aircraft I was supposed to JS on). As I walked up to the window to look out, the Captain noticed me standing at the gate. He motioned at me as if to ask if I wanted on the aircraft. I shook my head "no" and gave a thank you wave to him, since the next flight was due to arrive in 15 minutes. They already had the door closed and ACARS had started the block time, so I didn't want to hose the crew out of $. What a great crew!!!!

As it turned out, the next flight was later than expected and completely full. My worst fear came true. The aircraft was weight restricted and the gate agent wouldn't let me go down and talk to the Captain. Unfortunately, my attempts to get the attention of the Captain from the gate were unsuccesful.

I ended up driving 3 hours to get to my base. I had missed the first round-trip, got a nasty-gram from the company, and lost pay.
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My last experience on the jumpseat went like this.......I listed on a noon flight out of XXXX airport. When I arrived at the gate to get my JS pass, I noticed that there was a company aircraft waiting for pushback (not the aircraft I was supposed to JS on). As I walked up to the window to look out, the Captain noticed me standing at the gate. He motioned at me as if to ask if I wanted on the aircraft. I shook my head "no" and gave a thank you wave to him, since the next flight was due to arrive in 15 minutes. They already had the door closed and ACARS had started the block time, so I didn't want to hose the crew out of $. What a great crew!!!!

As it turned out, the next flight was later than expected and completely full. My worst fear came true. The aircraft was weight restricted and the gate agent wouldn't let me go down and talk to the Captain. Unfortunately, my attempts to get the attention of the Captain from the gate were unsuccesful.

I ended up driving 3 hours to get to my base. I had missed the first round-trip, got a nasty-gram from the company, and lost pay.
Let this be a lesson: ALWAYS catch the early ride when it's available.
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:36 AM
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200s are only weight restricted if it's carrying a ton of gas which is pretty rare. The main problem for jumpseaters is the CG. I've never tried but what I hear are erj are the ones that are hard to jumpseat on because of weight. (I am not trying to start a crj-erj comparison just saying what I hear)
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